
emotion & personality layer of ai @egolabsai πΈπ¬β‘οΈπ¨π¦β‘οΈπΊπΈ/π―π΅| ex-meta ai research & astrophysics @ uni | ai, screenwriting, tattoos,ππ½ββοΈ, punk. YC W24
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itβs official: weβre a YC company and just launched ππ
πΎ@ego_ai_ is an AI-native simulation engine where players can create 3D animated characters, worlds, and scripts with natural language. Imagine being able to prompt Minecraft or The Sims into existence.
Congrats on launching @peggy_wang + @simulacronist!
ycombinator.com/launches/KeDβ¦
well now that the election is done i guess i can be visibly brown on @X again? #NewProfilePic
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i've seen this in my test group. uncanny, but exciting.
since i've set everything up, my personal agents now imessage me more often than some of the ppl closest to me. maybe more than half of my pocket vibrations are agents which is weird because that specific notification vibration was always reserved for ppl.
at this point you can kind of imagine where these entities can become emotional companions in the same way something like her worked but in text form. the fundamental difference & reason why is that these live in the same inbox as your friends & family. the medium itself creates a sense of intimacy that even the most fluffy designed characters & any traditional piece of software ever could. ironically without any of the visual design. only emotional design.
the medium is the message.
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specialized personal agents seems to be the anti-consensus bet rn.
iβm all in.
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i had a fever dream like this once and woke up relieved that sf remains swagless
My experience partying all night at Berghain in Berlin made me think of how we're lacking this experience in the San Francisco tech scene. We can literally become the coolest, most tasteful social scene on Earth if we had our version of Berghain, but better. So let's build it. The best aspect of Berhain is how they select who gets in. The club has a vibe and atmosphere, and if you aren't wearing the right clothes or have the right demeanor, you don't get in. That's how you cultivate a tasteful crowd. We can improve on this by only letting in high agency, talented operators in the tech scene who can still pull off dope outfits, so no geeks. SF is in dire need of late night venues, and Berghain goes until 8am. That's a little too crazy for high net worth operators who are changing the world so we could do something like 2am. Berghain also is kinda dark and in a weird building so we'd put the club in a SoMa corporate office that we convert to speakeasy or barcade vibe. Maybe add a quiet area for people to bring their laptops and work? I honestly feel like we're improving on the Berghain form here, especially by swapping out the crowd of weird partiers in inappropriate clothes (or lack there of) with insanely cracked founders and engineers. I'm super stoked about this idea, SF tech could really run the dopest parties on the planet.
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thank you for having me @venturetwins, @joshelman & @illscience β¦ great hearing from other founders & glad yall are onboarded on to yΕkai. for those whoβd like access, dm me and i can get you into next weeks batch: yokai.ai
Impeccable vibes at our @a16z consumer dinner tonight β¨
Iβve been investing in consumer for a decade, and I believe weβre now at the beginning of a renaissance.
There are going to be some category-defining companies built in the next few years!
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mech interp being solved is probably the most exciting advancement in ai this year
Everyone is talking about how profound this essay is rn.
For the non-technical person (like myself), a 65-minute read about the inner-workings of neural networks feels very unapproachable.
But people are right, this essay is profound. And it's important to understand its essence even if you don't grok the particulars.
So let me do my best to break it down as I understand it...
Let's start with mechanistic interpretability.
That's what this essay is about & what the field has been obsessed with for a long time.
Mechanistic interpretability is a clunky phrase, but all it means is the process of understanding how an AI model works on the inside:
1) which parts of the model do what
2) how they work together to produce an answer
The next obvious question is: why do we even care about understanding how an AI model's internals work?
There are several reasons, and they all boil down to one word: trust.
reason 1: we've been building ai we don't understand. unlike every other high-stakes technology (computers, internet, planes, medicine), we know if a model works, but we don't know how it works.
reason 2: predicting performance is unpredictable. the way ai is judged today is through tests. problem is, tests don't cover enough ground. a model can perform well in testing, but not deployment. you can't run every test possible. and a model can give you the right answer for the wrong reason.
reason 3: scanning for deception is important. as models get better, there's concern that models will output one thing, while "thinking" something else. if you can only understand outputs, a model can hide its true intentions from you.
reason 4: it allows for precision when improving the model. once you know which internal parts cause what outputs, you can isolate fixes without having to retrain the entire model and praying it works.
reason 5: understanding how the model works is mission critical in high-risk industries. simply saying the model did the right thing "just because" to stakeholders in healthcare, financial services, and government won't fly especially as regulation matures around this technology.
reason 6: humans can learn from how the models "think". models sometimes learn patterns that humans haven't. if we understand their thought processes we can leverage those for humanity's own novel insights.
So, that's why mechanistic interpretability is important.
Next, it's important to understand why there's been so much focus & concern around this area of AI research for a while now.
Prior to this piece by @nickcammarata, the consensus view was...
Progress has been made in the field over the years (from studying toy models to massive production models in short order), but even still, current techniques are slow, expensive, and only cover small parts of understanding a model.
And here's the rough story researchers have generally agreed on re: why the practice of interpretability has remained limited:
1) AI models are built from millions of βneurons,β small units that each light up in response to a given input.
2) Ideally every neuron has one clear job, that way you can map out the model as a diagram of neurons and their corresponding meaning cleanly. Example: there's a "dog ear detector" neuron and it fires on floppy dog ears, from any breed, angle, or photo, and on nothing else.
3) There's a problem: early researchers found that neurons had several unrelated jobs (i.e. they fired on unrelated inputs). The most famous example was of a neuron that fired on both cat faces and fronts of cars.
4) The leading explanation for "messy" neurons was called superposition. The idea was that when a model runs out of room (i.e. more concepts it wants to track than it has neurons to track them with), it crams unrelated concepts into the same neuron because they rarely show up together.
5) If this theory of superposition is true, studying neurons would be a fools errand, because you'd have to use a second AI model (called a sparse autoencoder) to try and untangle the first model, which would be expensive & potentially offer an incorrect understanding of the original model.
Which left mechanistic interpretability in this weird spot. As @nickcammarata points out, it is arguably the most important scientific problem to solve as it helps us understand the most powerful technology in human history, but vibes around cracking the code have been lackluster.
In his new essay, Nick, who has pioneered much of the recent work being done in interpretability, posits that the field has largely thought about this problem incorrectly & he explains why.
Which, if he's right, is hugely positive for the world.
Here's his argument...
He believes that neural networks are in fact largely readable, and the "tangled mess" narrative is oversold as a fundamental property, when it's really solvable problems.
He breaks this belief down into four steps:
"1) Networks use one learning principle, not two (if not everywhere, then nearly enough that it doesnβt matter for study), so thereβs no blocker to beginning ordinary science on them."
Translation: Neural networks group things by shared patterns (generalization). They donβt switch to cramming unrelated things together when space runs out (superposition) as mentioned above.
"2) With modern models and tools, that science goes much better than most people expect."
Translation: you can study neural nets just as you study anything with science. Assume the neurons are mostly readable as they are. Study the real model directly. And test your explanations with experiments.
"3) Understanding compounds, so it gets easier as the map fills in. At minimum, then, a networkβs own mechanisms should be part of the toolkit."
Translation: studying models gets easier as technology and tooling gets better + as you start filling in your understanding of the model it becomes easier to complete the rest. Think of it like a crossword. Each neuron you explain becomes a reference point for checking the ones around it. Early on, a guess about a neuron has nothing to be checked against. Later, it has to fit with everything connected to it, so wrong guesses get caught and right ones get confirmed quickly
"4) Highly speculative: this might be most of what we need, and interpretability might be far more tractable, possibly in the near term, than weβve assumed."
Translation: if steps 1-3 hold and scale, direct investigation might take us most of the way to understand an AI model & possibly soon. The reasoning is that models have finite number of neurons, most are readable and AI agents can audit them at scale, understanding compounds (crossword effect), so mapping a model is a large, but finite engineering problem.
He goes on to share evidence for his changing worldview as well as steelman the weaker parts of his argument.
First, evidence. Cammarata provides 8 supporting cases.
1) The case for superposition relied heavily on two examples from vision models and they were misread
- The cat/car neuron turned out to detect pointed V shapes. It was also activated when detecting flames, fox snouts, and other pointy things and went negative when round shapes were presented.
- The car-detecting neuron that appeared to be "stashed" inside dog neurons were found to not be dog neurons but instead pose neurons: which detected the orientation of an object. Cars and dogs can both be in a head-on pose which would activate the neuron.
2) InceptionV1 an image-recognition model from 2014 was the first model researchers studied closely. It's early layers were easy to read (neurons for edges, curves, colors), but it's final layer (where the model makes abstract judgements), looked like nonsense. Almost no neurons could be described (0-5%) understandable. This became industry evidence for the "Neural nets are hopelessly tangled" view.
Nick argues that this model had very explainable problems (a bad camera & a poorly built model), and everyone through the baby out with the bath water.
3) Superposition theory says that when a model runs out of neurons, it starts cramming unrelated things together. So Nick deliberately took neurons away (480 --> 10) to see if that happens. It did not, the model just started using broader categories. Think of it as a finance org going from five finance specialists to one person handling all of finance.
4) Recursive generalization explains the leftover mess. The leftover mess is that some neurons still look messy even in good models. But as Cammarata watched neurons form during model training, he found that this "mess" builds up through a chain of small, coherent jumps the neurons make as the model is trained. Think of a tree. A trunk splits into branches, which split into smaller branches, which split again. If you only saw three leaves from far-apart twigs, they might seem unrelated. Follow the branches back and they all connect to the same trunk.
5) If neurons were scrambled (via superpositioning), an untangling tool (sparse autoencoder mentioned earlier), should have uncovered many hidden concepts the neurons don't show. Instead, about 88% of what it found was just copies of existing neurons. Meaning the model had already organized itself into clean units, so the untangling step just rediscovered what was there.
6) Superposition believers think that rare concepts might be secretly stashed in hidden combinations of neurons where no one would notice them. Cammarata test this theory by checking all the hiding spots. He found that the model doesn't have a hidden layer of secret machinery. Even when it handles, rare, weird or random things it uses the same known neurons it uses for everything else.
7) People worry that image models may be clean to interpret but not language models. This comes from two efforts in 2023 to read language neurons where Anthropic found the average neuron to be a 0 (on a 0-14 scale of how understandable it was) and OpenAI found only 1.7% of neurons understandable. But after Nick's audits of 1,000 neurons within Qwen3-32B, he found 90% have one main job, 7% have two related jobs, and 2-4% are random mixtures. Several changes caused greater neuron understandability: bigger, better models, much better AI research assistants, grading for correctness, knowing what to look for, better data to test on, and the crossword effect.
8) His response to "If neurons are this readable, why did so many smart researchers including himself, believe the opposite for years?" An analogy for his explanation is roughly doctors studying x-rays with a blurry, miscalibrated machine, the only have small low-quality scans, they've never been taught what certain healthy structures look like, and there's a popular theory that the organ is naturally deformed.
Finally, the weaker parts of his argument he calls out.
1) Language model evidence is thin. Most of the detailed, controlled experiments are on image models. For language models, he has audits and case studies, and the detailed technical paper isnβt out yet.
2) There's subjectivity in the headline numbers around understanding the job of each neuron. β90% have one jobβ depends on what counts as one job, how far into the faint signals you look, and how related two things must be to count as the same.
3) Faint signals donβt have a trusted test yet. Thatβs exactly where superposition defenders would now say the hidden concepts are.
Recap: AI models may be much less of a black box than we thought. For years, researchers focused on mechanistic interpretability believed the inner workings of neural networks were fundamentally scrambled, so trying to study them directly was hopeless. This essay argues that belief was a mistake caused by weak tools and older AI designs.
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Of course, thatβs your contention. Youβre a first-year machine-learning engineer. You just got finished readin' Attention Is All You Need, probably watched a Karpathy video too. So now youβre convinced everything is just transformers and scaling laws.
That's gonna last until next month when you discover convolution, and then you're gonna be talkin' about inductive biases and locality and how CNNs were actually incredibly compute-efficient for vision.
Then you're gonna read the FlashAttention paper, and suddenly everything's about IO complexity and SRAM and how FLOPs don't matter because the whole goddamn thing is memory-bandwidth bound.
That'll last until somebody shows you an MoE model, and then you're gonna be in here regurgitating DeepSeek, talkin' about expert parallelism and active parameters and how dense models are economically obsolete.
Then six months from now you'll write one shitty Triton kernel, look at an Nsight trace for the first time, and start telling everybody Python isn't actually the bottleneck because the GPU is asynchronous.
And by next year you're gonna be standing right here explaining to me that your 400-billion-parameter model is fast because you turned on CUDA graphs.
Ben Affleck reveals he writes Python, understands convolutional neural networks, worked extensively with GPUs, and used his celebrity status to get private looks at Google and OpenAIβs video models
βIβve always been kind of into computers since I was young. Then, when film started to move from analog film to digital, I became more interested in that aspect of it. The visual-effects workflow for many years has included machine learning, so I can write pretty shitty Python scripts and stuff like that.
βWith convolutional neural networks, which were the precursors to what the transformer can do, which is much more computation simultaneously, you would do things like look at whatβs called a tensor. Thatβs the numerical translation of a visual image in numbers, like the batch number, the frame number and the red, green and blue values of each pixel in each frame. Itβs just that simple. That numeric is called a tensor.
βYouβd use a convolutional neural network to identify patterns that reveal whatβs called edge detection or feature extraction, which is identifying patterns well enough to know, this is where the window ledge is, so we can more easily take the green-screen image out and replace it with something.
βThat was familiar to me early on because, prior to Artists Equity, I had a small visual-effects company. Iβve worked with GPUs a lot too. The visual-effects guys said, βHey, you should see. There are a couple: Google and this other company, OpenAI, are doing really interesting stuff with transformers in video.β
βIβve learned that I can actually just call up and go, βHey, itβs Ben Affleck. Can I come see what youβre doing?β Sometimes people say yes, to my astonishment.β
a normal person (like my mom) does not know what to do with an empty agent. an agent with character, a name and a job fixes that problem; thatβs what iβve seen with my first 100 users.
characterful specialization is the answer and my bet on how i get to 100m consumers experiencing ai agents dailyβ¦in work, fun, errands, gaming, purchasing and everything in-between
this is why we're indexing heavily on fun, specialized agents at yokai.ai; drawing heavily from my startup's early work in ai npcs in games
a16z's Olivia Moore on the untapped category in consumer AI: most people aren't looking to save time, they're looking for ways to spend it.
"We talked about this in the report, in terms of areas where we have not yet seen AI-native startups pop up."
"@ekuyda, one of our portfolio CEOs, runs a company called Wabi. She has this great quote, I'm probably going to botch it, but it's something like: 'Most people aren't looking to save time, they're looking for ways to spend their time.'"
"This is why social media, entertainment, Netflix, TikTok, YouTube are the most used consumer products we have."
"Much of what we've seen in AI so far is: how do I do this thing a little bit faster? A little bit easier? A little bit more impressively? And that's not an incredibly compelling daily or hourly active value proposition for most people."
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my non-consensus take is that people will have a multitude of personal agents instead of just one and each personal agent will be specialized in a way thatβs legible to a non-tech person
itβs non-consensus because most players are building towards personal agiβbut i fundamentally donβt think thatβs how humans operate
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that and i think personal agents should be like people; personable
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wild use of muse: figure out which of your ig followers might have a crush on you. let me explain:
(1/7) my muse traverses the story viewer list on my small private account and matches it against dm history. in this first image, it buckets viewers into 5 categories ranked by DM activity and then...
π€ Made with AI
(6/7) "Plus the heart-eyes reactions on your stuff and her watching your stories consistently."--omg i'm gonna ask her out and report back.
muse's analysis is ... truly incredible. kudos @AIatMeta, @Muse & @alexandr_wang ... you mighta just landed me a really hot latina.
will report back. stay tuned.
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(7/7) while i have you here...i'm launching yokai.ai to a private group. it's like muse meets characterai; personal specialized agents with a ton of personality that feel like people. dm if you wanna help test!
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