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Occasional accountant and tinkerer in IT, YFC odd jobber. Tweets are my views, no one else's

Cornwall
Joined August 2010
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Ed Ford telling it like it is, has been for a while and will continue to be unless radical change takes place
Name another industry where the grower or manufacturer is paid less than the cost of production—and has no say in the price. In farming, that’s business as usual. Where did it all go so wrong? 🤷‍♂️
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This is a great post on budget inheritance tax changes for farmers - advice on your own circumstances is critical. There are a lot of broad brush assumptions in the media about exemptions...
I've been meaning to do a piece on Farming Companies hit by the #FamilyFarmTax. Similar principles apply to other trading companies. Stick with me, this is painful. Alan and Bob, brothers, inherited their farms in the late 1970's when land was £1,000 an acre. 400 acres, a house and some kit means it's now worth £5m. Alan is a sole trader with one daughter, Cath. Bob farms via a Ltd company and has one son, Dan. Both brothers lost their wives a few years back. Alan and Bob die unexpectedly shortly after next April, and there's an IHT bill on both their estates of £735k each. The next gen can't afford to pay that from the income they generate of £50k p.a., so they both look to sell land to pay for it. You'd hope their circumstances were similar. Cath sells 75 acres at £10k an acre. No CGT as she has just inherited it, and she pays off the inheritance tax. She's now farming 325 acres and things are much tighter. Dan needs to get money out of the company. The company sells land, but has to pay corporation tax because there was no uplift in the company's land prices on death. He also needs to get that money out of the company, and that payment will be taxed as a dividend. To pay the IHT bill of £735k, Dan has had to sell ~156 acres~, more than twice that of his cousin. He realises £1.56m, pays corporation and income tax of about £820k and only then gets the money in his own hands. He can then use what's left to pay the Revenue the inheritance tax. Cath has sold 19% of her land, but Dan has had to sell 40% of his. All circumstances are different. Get advice on your own position from someone you trust.
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My @pressjournal column, yes it’s on the budget, APR and IHT. But it’s also on the rallies… looking at it from a PR perspective - things that I think are important if you’re going.
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Wise words @Ed_Farmer_Ford As an industry, we must complain and campaign on this but everyone affected needs to get advice and take action - soon. Succession conversations are not easy but they need to happen
🙏👍 @bencm305 - pictured here is me(left) my brother and business partner (middle) and my father W/O HiViz (retired from the business but still a sounding board) Get your affairs in order fellow farmers. Now more than ever, succession planning AND IMPLEMENTATION is key 1/
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I’m not going to comment on the #Budget. However if you are struggling as a result please talk to someone and if you want confidential advice from very talented people then call one of our wonderful charities. The @FCNcharity helpline number is below. #DontSufferinSilence 💪
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Very disappointing to see a poster for an event with a tagline "Dairy takes babies from their mothers" on an Elizabeth Line train in London
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If you saw @agricontract on BBC Breakfast this morning talking rural mental health, this is the event mentioned. We will be hoping for plenty of friendly horns on the way down! #combinechallenge #claas #lexion @MindCharity justgiving.com/team/combinej… – at Fownhope, England
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URGENTLY NEEDING A FOSTER MARE We are heartbroken to say that shortly after giving birth last night, Daysee sadly passed away leaving a lovely colt foal behind. We will miss her terribly but now we need to find a foster mummy for him to give him the best chance🐴🐴 Please RT
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This is a brilliant partnership between Orkney Mart and YFC. They give £1,000 to each competitor to purchase a beast for wintering and then recoup it when it's resold in the spring. Would be great to see this idea spread further fwi.co.uk/app/www.fwi.co.uk/…
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George is a journalist who is mistakenly conflating old methane, from fossil fuels, with the methane that is (and has been for 000s of years) part of the ruminant & grassland cycle. Don't be like George. Best thing you can do for the planet? Use less fossil fuels. Simple.
This is the classic denialist position on livestock farming, founded on total pseudoscience. It's worth being aware of, as it gets a lot of traction. But it's as wrong as claiming that CO2 is plant food, ergo emissions are good for the planet.
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another work of fiction by @the_brc THEY HAVE ALREADY INCREASED THE COST TO CONSUMERS The British Retail Consortium (BRC) which represents supermarkets, said bird flu had caused some disruption to egg supplies, but added retailers were trying to minimise the impact on customers.
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That’s the problem with stats - the phrase “lies, damn lies and statistics” always comes to mind. There’s always something in data that be twisted into another point of view
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free weeks in the @FarmersOfTheUK schedule across the next couple months. i can't force people to use the account but in my opinion it's a fantastic resource & opportunity to share your farming message to nearly 55000 audience on here. need people to step up rather than criticise
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*Pls RT* Are you a young farmer under 30 and would like to share your story and opinions on industry issues? I’m after individuals to feature in @FarmersGuardian Young Farmer Focus for Jan/Feb editions. DMs open / [email protected]
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Replying to @Tesco
@Tesco @Morrisons @sainsburys @LidlGB @AldiUK @marksandspencer @waitrose what are your thoughts on culling our high welfare healthy British pigs and wasting the meat? Upsetting enough to get EU product off your shelves and help the BRITISH farmer out a bit? #savebritishbacon
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A very informative thread explaining the complex issues facing the livestock sector due to the #CO2shortage - well worth a read.
Lots of talk atm about how a lack of CO2 is causing havoc with meat supplies - here's why: I used to be a slaughterman in an abattoir, some of the following #thread might be a little grim, but it's the reality of our meat supply chain #1 bbc.co.uk/news/business-5862…
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The Kilhallon Cow Pie & Beer Festival is at the farm on Sat 23 Oct, noon - 10pm. You’ll find #crackin food, ales and a dash of live music, supporting @cornwallairamb RABI & @AddingtonFund Tickets cost just £5 each. Book here: ticketsource.co.uk/james-kit… #beerfestival #cornwall
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Come on Twitter world, everyone has a story to tell big & small 👍
Replying to @jake_fiennes
hi jake - the account needs farmers and rural businesses to want to do a takeover - at the moment, despite requests for hosts, there isn't anyone coming forward to do so (@halo42 - organiser). hopefully it will be back up and running as soon as more people want to tweet!
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Malvern Autumn Show is right around the corner! Who's excited? @MalvernShows @3countiesshows #malvern #autumnshow #visitmavern
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Great to be back @samscornwall at @samsatthebay Lovely food and please thank George (he knows why)