In 2013, progressive SEIU union leader @DavidMRolf, one of the most innovative and strategic thinkers in organized labor, sparked the $15 min wage movement that spread across big blue cities by running and winning - by 77 votes - a then quite radical ballot measure in Seatac, a small working class Seattle suburb (home to thousands of low paid airport workers), to raise their min wage to $15. Now, 12 years later, urban working class voters are voting increasingly Republican and only 6 percent of private sector workers are in a union. And Rolf is in a surprising (to us, anyway!) dialogue with a rising right-of-center movement led by conservative economists like @oren_cass that seeks to push the Republican Party to adopt economic policies that boost blue collar workers. So on the latest episode of Blue City Blues (@bluecitypodcast) @hyded and I sat down for revealing conversation with Rolf to ask him whether present-day union leaders are culturally and politically out of step with their own members, why the Democratic Party is losing the working class, and whether the Republican Party is really likely to embrace pro-worker economic policies. We weren't disappointed - David has a lot of candid and insightful things to say on all of these fronts!