Joined February 2022
Ich habe mir gemeinsam mit @hoodinformatik das AfD-Leak angesehen und mit den Hacker*innen sowie Menschen aus dem Umfeld der AfD-IT-Dienstleister gesprochen. So konnten wir erstmals rekonstruieren, wie der Angriff mutmaßlich abgelaufen ist. lilithwittmann.de/blog/afd-h…
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I don’t think that’s right. What they’re saying is that “solving problems” is only one piece of the real production process of pure math. The other piece, which is even more important, is learning about the underlying landscape. Which in turn generates new problems and solutions. To me the pile on feels really misguided in its understanding of what math actually does. Imagine your job was to explore alien new worlds. You bring back ancient technology, maps, and evidence about even more planets beyond those known. A big part of your job is then to figure out how the ancient tech works. Sometimes it’s useful immediately, sometimes it takes centuries for us to figure out why it’s useful. A crucial element of figuring this out is understanding the context around the technology. This gives you a better understanding of the maps you made and points you towards more findings in the future. Now a tech comes along that is brilliant at decoding the alien technology. But it gives no information on the context, or helps make better maps, or helps find more of this tech or points in the direction of where it could be found. Let alone offering pointers on how to find new planets. And now, there is a mob of people coming after you, the explorer. Who needs explorers anymore?? We’re figuring out very quickly how to open all the existing tech. That’s your whole job, isn’t it? Soon you’ll be replaced entirely by the machines. Meanwhile, the explorers are begging us all to understand that a HUGE part of their jobs is making the maps and looking for new worlds. Sure, deciphering the existing tech is cool, but if we just focus on that, and not what they tell us about the maps, where are we going to find new tech? Let alone, how are we going to understand these strange worlds in their entirety? There is so much to discover there, we have thousands of years of evidence about that! I don’t think the fields medalists are being pedantic, self serving, or luddites. I think they are trying to explain to all of us that we are charging headlong into replacing them with machines that can only do one small part of their job. There’s a very real threat to mathematical progress here over the long run. And it’s coming about because people just don’t understand, at a very basic level, what mathematicians do. There’s a real need for some intellectual humility in this discussion on our end.
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Gosoma retweeted
A lot of people are missing Terence Tao’s point and thinking “mathematicians are upset that AI is better than them.” That’s not what he’s saying, and some people are forgetting that Tao is one of the most AI-pilled mathematicians out there. His point is that when people work on discovering something, along the way they invent new concepts. Those concepts later become useful far beyond the original goal, and enables further inventions. Finding a solution does matter, but the intermediate idea is often what makes the field richer, because other people can share it and build the next thing from it. In tech, we can use the analogy of collaborative software. We started with algorithms for merging changes in a Word document, and evolved that to concepts about versions, diffs, and merges, and later to real-time collaboration tools like Git, Google Docs, and Figma. Humans built upon these concepts and developed more powerful solutions. Terence’s worry is that a machine automating a solution robs the field of the value of developing the intermediate discoveries in the pursuit of larger discoveries. When automating a solution, the intermediate discoveries and invention of concepts can be buried or completely hidden in the black box. We don’t learn from them to build the next thing; it’s like we never made the invention of collaborative document editing and thus could not have the conceptual understanding to invent the next version – and since it’s hidden, we also don’t socialize them to allow other people to invent, too, a core tenet of collective discovery. So then, in both code and math, this leads to the atrophy of development of concepts in the field. In other words: pure ‘solution extraction’ that hides the process of discovery can leave the field with a checked-off theorem but little new insight or new questions to pursue. And it might prevent us from understanding a field deeper. I am seeing, first-hand, that atrophying of skills in software development. We push buttons and get solutions. There is much less incentive to develop new concepts and human skill. The bet most software companies are making is that LLMs are so effective in writing code that you’re still shipping overwhelmingly more value even with human skill atrophy, and it’s the right bet IMO. However, much of the software industry is built upon building things, not necessarily novel invention and research. In such an environment, you can say that you accept some atrophying of conceptual invention and human skill for more output. On the other hand, sectors like math and pure sciences that are focused on invention and insight might be the hardest hit by this. Practical/applied sciences might fall somewhere in the middle. An Alzheimer’s cure, room-temperature semiconductor, or highly effective carbon capture solution are far too valuable to sandbag and say only humans can do that to develop concepts in the ‘proper’ way. The outcome matters too much to treat the preservation of concept invention as the highest goal. Even there, though, hidden intermediates can slow the next breakthrough if nobody can see how the first one actually worked. So the question is not “is AI allowed to solve hard problems?” It is “in this field (math, science, tech, etc.), is the answer itself the main point, or are the concepts and abstractions we use to get there also the thing we need to maintain?”​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ In pure math, there’s an argument that the intermediates are often more useful than the solution, and atrophy in concept development is highly detrimental to the field. Solving Navier–Stokes, contrary to what some people claim, has little practical application, and pure math might be one of those fields where just finding a solution isn’t the entire point, and can actually be contrary to the field, which is what Tao is worried about.
as predicted, Terence Tao and friends are not happy Mathematicians that spend their lives trying to solve math problems are unhappy that AI is solving math problems because how dare they!
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hey haha ich mache mal was ganz innovatives und zeige meine arroganz weil ich in der schule etwas besser war als andere, so gewinnen wir nämlich den kampf gegen rechts, links sein bedeutet nämlich auf einer uni eingeschrieben sein und das löst die ganze unzufriedenheit im land
Lass ich mal so stehen
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Vorhersage: Sachsen-Anhalt wird durch einen überparteilichen Kandidaten der geschlossen von allen Fraktionen außer der AfD gewählt werden wird regiert werden. Das BSW hat wegen des Patts 39:39 ein immenses Druckmittel und alle Fraktionen bis auf AfD wollen Neuwahlen verhindern.
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Ich bitte euch… @polizeiberlin
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tagesschau.de/inland/anschla… Abdul wurde im Mai diesen Jahres zu einer Jugendstrafe (muss man das verstehen mit 21?) zu einer Haftstrafe verurteilt. Das Urteil war noch nicht rechtskräftig. Warum wird in so einem Kontext keine Sicherheitsverwahrung vor Haftantritt angeordnet?
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Ist es nicht irgendwie klar, dass jemand der erwiesenermaßen einen Anschlag geplant hat in der Zeit zwischen dem Urteil und dem Haftantritt einen Anschlag, egal welcher Dimension, ausführen wird? Das ist doch das was man erwarten muss. Unsere Justiz versagt mal wieder.
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