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Hedge Fund Manager David Orr (@orrdavid) on why he backed a game show winner with no credentials:
"I think that people aren't actually focused on just the simple answer of, like, what's this guy's edge. They're not willing to look outside and pick unusual people."
"In our case, one of our guys won a TV game show."
"He doesn't have any credential at all. He didn't work in any of the big shops or banks or anything."
"I'm fine hiring him because his personal account Sharpe for a few years is two point something, so we'll give him a shot."
"You could be a delivery guy, but if you're killing the market, I'll give you a shot. It could be anybody."
Hedge Fund Manager David Orr (@orrdavid) on why he’ll back a delivery guy over a Harvard grad, as long as the track record is real.
David Orr runs Militia Capital, a ~$480M hedge fund. ~50% annualized, Sharpe 2.
“If you didn’t go to Harvard, they’re not going to give you money. They’re gonna lead you on for years.”
We cover:
- Edge is just reps. He's placed a few hundred independent bets every year since 2019, more in one year than a lot of hedge fund managers get in a decade.
- The two-hour rule: if he can't decide on a stock in an hour or two, he skips it. When a trade goes against him, he quits. "The market said I'm wrong, I'm wrong."
- 500 positions in his partition and zero notes. Some of his best shorts are down 40% and he's forgotten what the company does.
- The Gogo lesson: he spent 100 hours on a short and was right on the fundamentals (it's now $2), but it ripped to $20 first. All that research made him stubborn on the way up.
- The AI risk system: it groups the book into custom baskets like "Banks Done Right" and "yield traps," recalculated daily. A 25% bet can quietly become 45% in two weeks.
- How Militia recruits PMs: 95% of track records are junk, and one cherry-picker ran 30 accounts and sent the best one. The PMs who make it include a game show winner, a Spanish government worker and a programmer, with 0.15 cross-correlation.
- The best short seller in the world, quietly: 40% a year short only for years, and he still gets a tiny allocation at his fund.
- Why multi-managers' real business is marketing. Collect $2B a year in fees on $100B and it's "mission accomplished," whatever the returns.
- The long/short tax trick: harvest losses on losing shorts, and never cover one that's down 90%. No tax is due until it's delisted, which can take 10 years.
- $150M raised from one email asking LPs for $100M. He says he could raise a billion but won't, and admits they "must have gotten at least somewhat lucky."
- His AI stock map: hyperscalers locked customers into take-or-pay deals at ~35% return on capital. If compute prices crash 80%, the end customers get wiped out, not the hyperscalers.
- Is investing 99% talent? For big alpha, almost entirely. Pod shop alpha is teachable, maybe for 1 in 50 people rather than 1 in 10,000.
Highlights:
00:00 Intro
00:44 How AI custom factor baskets track dynamic correlation in levered portfolios
03:24 Sourcing non-consensus PM talent and verifying live Sharpe track records
07:24 Structuring carry and tax deferral to attract elite proprietary traders
12:50 Why institutional multi-manager platforms fail to back pure alpha
20:22 The two-hour research limit: Avoiding sunk-cost bias in short selling
27:58 Momentum screening vs deep value: Why top longs hit new highs
29:40 Why traditional finance books fail and what operator biographies teach
37:16 Why rapid technological adaptation beats traditional economic moats
39:26 Analyzing the AI trade: Why hyperscalers offer superior downside protection
44:57 Internalizing stock borrow desks to maximize net-of-fee fund compounding
55:25 Avoiding confirmation bias and why shorting revenue growth fails
01:01:42 Pod shop leverage factories vs raw discretionary alpha generation
01:07:12 Unplugging from market narrative feeds to preserve independent conviction
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militia capital, a hedge fund reporting 48.3% annualized returns, has an unusual habit: its portfolio managers avoid comparing how they invest.
david orr says they deliberately avoided those conversations even when the team got together in new york.
“we try not to get correlated”
he thinks preserving their independence matters more than picking up another manager's process.
if everyone starts using the same inputs and signals, another manager may add much less diversification causing worse overall returns.
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300 extra hours a year = 6 extra weeks. He worked a 13.5-month year to everyone else's 12 — for 14 years straight.
Kirk McKeown, founder/CEO of Carbon Arc, ex-Point72 head of prop research, ex-Glenview, explains:
"I worked Sundays from 2006 till about 2020, six-hour Sundays on average."
"Six hours a Sunday, 50 Sundays a year, that's 300 hours. On a 50-hour week, that's six weeks."
"If I'm working 13.5 months a year to somebody else's 12, it doesn't matter how smart you are, you're not gonna beat me to the ball."
"In a knowledge business you compound knowledge value, which makes you faster. Knowledge shortens your time to alpha."
"What scares me most about these tools proliferating for young people: nothing beats doing the work."
"If you haven't pulled apart a three-sheet model, haven't dug through the MD&A in a 10-K, there's value in that apprenticeship that risks being lost."
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Citadel, Millennium, Point72 and BAM are richer, smarter, and faster than you. Here's how small hedge funds can win regardless:
Alix Pasquet (@alixpasquet), managing partner of hedge fund Prime Macaya Capital Management, explains:
"A lot of game theory is very technical and mathematical, but it really reduces to one thing: play weaker players. Don't get into the ring with Mike Tyson. That's not what you want to do."
"We don't try to compete with the pods. They are richer than we are, smarter than we are, move faster than we are, have more resources, and in many cases are better looking. That's bad for our self-esteem, for our ego, and also our wallet."
"We don't compete with them on who they hire. They're interviewing sophomores and juniors in college now. I can't afford to pay an analyst $300,000 plus a bonus including half a million dollars. But the analytical turnover inside these shops is high enough that you get to hire these kids afterwards."
"Whereas pods have been lengthening their trades to weekly, monthly, we like dynamics that are six to 18 months and above. There's names we've owned forever, and there's names we'll own expecting 18 months where the upside happens in weeks."
"Some of these hedge funds pay the Wall Street banks more to get the first one-on-one meeting with management, so they can trade on it. We don't do that."
"I'm rewriting my business plan for the age of AI, and one of the sections is: we have no requirement in our process that says you have to meet management teams. No requirement that says you need alt data. No requirement for Wall Street research. No requirement to hire from certain schools. Strategy is about trade-offs. Let them have that. We'll be right here. There's a lot more advantage here than you would think."
"A lot of game theory is very technical, but it really can be reduced to one thing: play weaker players. Don't get into the ring with Mike Tyson."
Alix Pasquet (@alixpasquet) is the Managing Partner & portfolio manager of Prime Macaya Capital Management, a behavioral long/short fund a decade in, built on refusing to fight the pods on their terms.
"We don't try to compete with the pods. They're richer than we are, smarter than we are, move faster than we are, and in many cases better looking."
We cover:
- Strategy is trade-offs: no required management meetings, no alt data, no Wall Street research. "Let them have that, we'll be right here"
- The time-horizon inefficiency small funds still own: 6-18 month dynamics the pods have abandoned
- Pods are interviewing college sophomores at $300K+, so he waits for the analytical turnover and hires them after
- What a top quant fund taught him: behavioral exploitation at scale, data scrubbing, transaction costs, and temporal stops (if the trade hasn't paid in a set time, get out)
- When the fund wouldn't share its models, he mapped where its employees went to school and studied those departments' sciences
- Idea generation: Phil Fisher found close to 80% of his best ideas came from other investors. Build the network, track the 13Fs
- The top-100 CEO list, five years of crashing the same conference, and the "female test" that surfaced Lululemon
- Why cheap stocks are cheap for terrible reasons now: the information environment that broke old-school value investing
- Your network is your moat, because most hedge funds have restaurant-level failure odds and no terminal value
- Margin of safety as a life principle: 3-5 years of personal cash, and the multibillionaire who still flies coach
Highlights:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Three edges: analytical, informational, and behavioral advantage
09:18 Sponsor break
09:48 Reading for edge: the canon, timing, and change investing
16:40 What a top quant fund taught a fundamental PM
23:24 Data skepticism, alt data, and the quantification fetish
26:50 How small funds compete with multi-manager pods
30:51 Idea generation: networks, 13Fs, and colliding themes
44:44 People as indicators: bull-bear debates and cross-referencing
51:00 Why technical analysis works: a behavioral lens
58:52 The future of the analyst job in the AI era
1:06:54 AI blind spots: wicked environments and non-stationary markets
1:14:34 Personal competitive advantage: energy, power pairs, network as moat
1:23:41 Margin of safety as a life strategy




