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Does @PatrickMcEnroe remember this 1996 Agassi-Muster Cincy ESPN intro with @CliffDrysdale? Perhaps @bgtennisnation recalls Andre’s 6-4, 6-1 win. Congrats to Cliff on a memorable career both on the court and in the broadcast booth.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=c34vTE…
Does @PatrickMcEnroe remember this 1996 Agassi-Muster Cincy ESPN intro with @CliffDrysdale? Perhaps @bgtennisnation recalls Andre’s 6-4, 6-1 win. Congrats to Cliff on a memorable career both on the court and in the broadcast booth.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=c34vTE…
Sadly, few people seem to share such a rational take on the situation. Transfer portal mania & injuries made this season impossible. Crean has NBA credibility w numerous guys. But players must be committed to UGA. Tough job when nearly the entire SEC lapped UGA 5+ yrs ago.
Exactly. I’ve made this point numerous times on message boards. Slam draws could be wildly uneven back then. Muster rarely got a comfortable 1st week. In ‘94, he would’ve needed to have beaten Agassi, Rafter and Bruguera just to reach the QFs! Guga in ‘97. Courier twice early…
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This is the simplest, most rational take that mirrors what I’ve said. The margins between success and failure are slimmer than ever. Perception and social media narratives go too far in putting everything on Crean.
Oats & Musselman had significant talent & experience already on board when they arrived. The situations are totally incomparable. Both schools have been more relevant than UGA in the past 20 years. Going further back, the disparity becomes even wider. All of this matters.
Except that Musselman and Oats were hired a season after Crean was, but sure… and did another team lose 9 guys (including four starters and another dude that may have been the best player on the team) in seven months?
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If Claxton stays and teams with Edwards, UGA likely wins 20+ games and makes the tourney. Alas, there was no tourney. UGA had a nice nucleus and they all left. Roster continuity is now nearly nonexistent in NCAA🏀. More than ever, you need a coach with NBA ties to have a chance.
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IU’s ‘12 and ‘16 teams were likely capable of FF runs, but received difficult draws. Crean’s “best” team, the ‘13 squad, was out of gas by March. Crean has flaws, but the hatred goes way too far. IU will find it difficult to achieve what Crean did in a several year span.
Correct and if he wasnt forced to step away they would have had a shit at a final 4 run. None of creans teams ever had a shot. Its okay crean is an overrated coach and everyone knows that now. Probably get a new job in the Mac
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I’m talking about actual results/season finishes. Sampson’s 07-08 team was very good until it collapsed after his resignation. It didn’t win the B1G and it lost badly in rd. 1 of the NCAA Tourney. Any other subjective comparisons are useless.
Wrong before Sampson got fired his team in 07 would have been a 10 point favorite over any crean team
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When you recruit, develop and lead three of IU’s four best teams since the early ‘90s after starting at ground zero, you probably should be given just a little bit of credit.
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And those fans are surely wondering how bad Crean must’ve been to have recruited, developed and led three of IU’s four best teams since the early ‘90s. Archie was touted as a vastly superior coach. How did that work out?
That’s highly inaccurate. Plenty of rational fans understand that Crean recruited, developed and led three of IU’s four best teams since the early 90s. His flaws and quirks are well documented, but the social media fodder has masked all objectivity regarding his success.
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It isn’t 1992. Expectations should’ve been lowered. Crean did better at IU than anyone since Knight in the early 90s (sans M.Davis in 02). Dismissing two B1G titles, three Sweet 16s, a #1 ranking and numerous wins over ranked opponents shows how out of touch fans were/are.
