Iain Dale completely loses it after a caller refuses to go along with the approved narrative on Russia. The caller says most people simply don’t care about Russia, don’t see it as a threat, and just want lower energy bills. “On the street, nobody agrees with your talking points.” Dale asks: “You don’t think Russia is a threat to this country?” “No. It’s not”, the caller replies. “The average person just wants their bills to come down.” Dale then explodes: “Yeah but they don’t want bills to come down by appeasing a brutal Russian dictator who’s invaded the sovereign country of Ukraine and killed hundreds of thousands of people! What part of that do you not get!?” The caller hits back: “What are you talking about? As if we’re some kind of beacon of humanity. Give me a break!” You can shout at people all you like, Iain, but it doesn’t make you right. Plenty of people don’t support the Ukraine war, don’t believe Russia is an existential threat to Britain, and know there’s more to this than Putin just waking up one day and deciding to invade for fun. They don’t buy the “Hitler” comparison and would happily buy cheaper oil if it meant improving the shocking living standards created by years of reckless government policy. As the caller points out, we’re hardly saints either, not with the regimes we back and the things Britain has done itself. Most people have seen through the nonsense.