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nailed it, i realized we were screwed when Travis recently asked when hero stars update, which is literally one of the fundamental mechanics of the game the weirdest part is this is a social-engagement game at its core, the 3 founders all have hero cards, yet barely played, barely engaged, barely showed up you’d expect them to be all-in publicly, hyping up tournament winners, chirping at FUDDers like Kook, recruiting heroes who actually engage, building the flywheel instead it was silence. and meanwhile if you look at Kipit’s posts, they’re about yield-farming the 8–10M he extracted, not about the product or the community the community carried everything, BoredSharky dashboards, TheMolts sheets, Clayton strategy, Visavi quant writeups, countless other creators, the ecosystem around the game was doing more to drive engagement than the actual team fantasytop is insanely addicting. the community is passionate and driven. its dying because the people running it don't understand or play their own game

Heres what happened from my POV from the beginning: Fantasy got bootstrapped with around $20-25m right before Blast TGE cause of the mania surrounding Blast gold at the time This entire prizepool was supposed to be utilized to now bootstrap their own product - the core fantasy game for which they sold packs and cards at insane prices initially This core product came out quite shoddy and nearly killed the game in the first few weeks. A few people from the community stepped in to help them create the version you play, know and love which was also built with an MTT poker style prize distro Unfortunately we found out much much later that the founders of the game/devs never played themselves and had 0 idea of their own product in hand. They however did display a tremendous amount of passion and spirit, and would ship with decent enough velocity which was very important to save the game at the time. 45e per week prizepool split across 4 leagues with a "Guaranteed Runway" of 3+ years is what the team EXPLICITLY announced For the next few months as the game found its footing and PMF after the initial blast gold drop off, tons of players old and new would bid, buy and create a port with the knowledge of this 3 year runway And game theory now determined card and floor prices over the next few months most of which (apart from a few hiccups during sept 2024) gradually increased I think it was in sometime in the next 2-3 months that fantasy even made an announcement saying "This month we managed to pay salaries + hero payouts + Prizepool" from monthly revenue It was actually an incredible day At this point though despite every single player pushing them the devs actually weren't doing much because the UX (which is still as bad after 2 years) was such a terrible experience it was and still is one of the biggest hurdles for UA for fantasy But the cracks weren't showing up yet with these 3 founders cause the product/game was so good it pretty much ran itself Mind you Fantasy tourneys are from Mon-Thu. In June 2024 when we helped them make this version of the game so many things were discussed to be implemented on the platform: "the 4 tiers will all be multi-entry so you can enter each as many times as you want. the lowest tier (Bronze) will allow only commons and have a Stars cap (likely 20 to start). the highest tier (Elite) will be fully uncapped for the whales to dick measure in so that alone can use up everyone entire collection pretty much. if there's going to be other sub tournaments running at the same time, they need to be known in advance of the Mains starting so people can hold back some decks if they want to play in them. it does leave Thursday through Sunday fully open for sub tournaments, though! I think they could easily field 5-10 smaller sub tournaments a day during that period. they'd be much shorter with lower rewards (like you're suggesting above) and have all sorts of weird requirements/restrictions. keep it interesting!" Fantardios remember waiting for an NFT PFP tourney for 2 years 😂 There are so many possibilities and unique concepts to be implemented on core its unreal how they don't see it - because the founders don't play the game (Also what happened to not letting those cards lie there doing nothing from thu-sun? Its been 2 years 🤔) Nevertheless, the 10% finished Core product with 1000 bugs, worst UX known to mankind and having to Hard refresh for any action to take place on the website - Turns out it was still SO GOOD and everyone was having so much fun that Fantasy crushed it. The did however start tactics somewhere in this period and try running it many times - core addicted players loved the game but it was 10x harder to find UA cause its too niche and noone was to pay $5 x 50 or $20 x 100 entries to be +ev in a new game they have no idea of. So it never worked Every mistake of the team stems from not playing and coming close to understanding their own core game, understanding how complex and addictive the game theory of it all is and why there was never a chance to acquire people to you're game with side quests and all you had to do was focus on the main body FIRST. The side quests in fact would have absolutely crushed if done in the right order. Sept/oct 2024 - Jan/feb F2P Monad Launch: This (according to me) is where it first began to go downhill - although fantasy absolutely took over mindshare, everyone's portfolios were at ATH and literally tons of people that left post blast, and new users etc joined However, cause the game devs don't play the game, I think they never understood why the new UA (User acquisition) was so bad for them when everything seemed to be going right There would come a point around here where the weekly revenue wasn't covering the prizepool and again "biting into the treasury too much" in their heads This is where they messed up - While ALL 3000+ unique players could've told you immediately that all that needed to be done was FIX THE UX, add more game modes (platinum league came in 2025 october as a bandaid, more on that later) and all the other 100 incredibly theory crafted ideas posed to them I think the devs were slowly losing faith in their own product and looking for more side quests and different ways to hunt that UA Mind you nothing is malicious or ruggy until now. Also the game itself which we created for them ran its self so well despite all the issues...and nothing was being done for thu-sun or even taking a simple suggestion like brining PvP duels in-house raked which lead back to the core prizepool...etc etc there were at least a 100 ways to do this and all would have worked if you just focussed on the core product which at this point is still at 15% finish In all this time sept-jan/feb Fantasy has THRIVED. Everyone is in love with the game, devs, each other. Monad F2P launch was in fact again very positive even if short lived and did its little bit. It was apparently fun to play (i didn't) as well etc. This is where the REAL downfall to everything we see now begins. Weekly prizepool still 45eth Everythings still going smooth although nothing has happened to improve the Core game (except a disastrous 5 months of giving "Reverse league" 5e a week - to complete extractors...which was found out by some community members) like no new modes, no pvp, no UX improvement....nothing tbh What the players did not know, at this time was that the devs were worried about UA and not generating enough revenue for the core to run itself on the weekly prizepool. There was supposed to be 2years+ runway at the time. How could they? Fantasy groups and TL were euphoric perma as they should be. Everyone assumed everythings going great and this is going to billions like it should Turns out (we found out much later) the "revenue is split into something called Company funds 45% + hero payouts 10% + player prizepool 45%" which basically means as a startup thats trying to bootstrap its product by putting back into its own Core game ONLY 41% of the revenue generated by core players from playing and trading the core cards LMFAO? Why exactly is a company that has done nothing so far taking "revenues" when the game hasn't yet reached its Ideal game theory spot - prizepool wise -everything should be going back in if someone believed in their product it is after the revenue from the core game itself. Stinks of extraction sadly noone knew this earlier Anyway lets continue Even with this, and still at 15% completion and devs having done NOTHING at all for the game, fantasy crushed because yes - the game is that good and your core player base is addicted Clout/Shout/NERF - MASSACARE: We - the players - tagged along blissfully unaware, imagining things like UFC heroes and NBA twitter heroes and the...dreams and possibilities for this particular game and product are endless. I could write 40 posts with ideas - maybe i will - and I'd just be getting started The team hyped up and buffed up an announcement to come in may that pretty much everyone expected and increase in prizepool - cause its been what 9 months since the new modes with additional prizepool or a new league or well nothing has been done to the core game their main product So far after being given on a silver platter this game in around June 2024 - the devs have basically worked on Failed tactics 1, Failed tactics 2, F2P monad Again going about it the wrong way At this point atleast 10 heroes and 30 random people who asked me how to play and i explained - have come back to me with this 1 statement- "Bro I might log back in when the UX is better" At this point the team has even openly started subscribing to the idea that card prizes i.e Everyones portfolio is too high for new players to enter The cracks were there. But as i mentioned ATH, mood was great all round, yeah i had a nearly 7 fig port in fantasy at the time 😂 Remember this is at 15% completion of the game and broken website and marketplace that looks like its been created by an orangutan Probably also got a little cocky and egoistic at this point cause ya'll remember how fantasy was crushing? The GREAT awaited announcement was....wait for it.... A NERF of the weekly prizepool that you have guaranteed for 3 years from 45e to 20e while also launching a kaito like clone (yes you've probably never heard of it...called Clout😂 Why exactly is a game launching a temu kaito? There is no launchpad either April sometime - BOMB - kill off the game product, and all hope in a single shot cause they don't play or understand their own game and lost faith in the greatest game invented since Poker in the 1950's 😭 As you can expect there was massive outrage at this point from a few members who saw that had happened and where this is heading. A lot of the community still believed in them however. Next came SHOUT: Anyone remember this? They spent the next few months instead of working on the game and the core while all ports went down massively, player base bleeding, everything looking bleak...on a memecoin launchpad - yes not kidding that was the next "Dart" 🫵😹 What exactly is a game company doing...chasing dead metas as the end of a cycle with a LAUNCHPAD? It later became apparent that somewhere along the way they had got "tapped" out on the gaming end, had no idea what to do and were "Throwing Darts" as the founder travis bickle says to find new Users. No work on the Core nothing, in fact nerf it In trying to find UA from all these "Darts" and then suddenly disappearing for 3-4 months in from June - October - leaving a completely broken and dwindling player base although everyone still loves and bids and buy and truly enjoys the game - everything went sour Any move like moving to base, Improving the website, getting added WL's etc from tons of projects (as an example i got my fluffle for coming 1st in a tourney) all these things and every single action the team did amounted to bandaid something that could only be fixed by increasing back the prizepool which everyone was going on about or atleast showing intent. Whats sad however is they have $15m of the players money which they call "Company Revenue" and are not willing to put that back...into their own product. Every week and every month was spent plugging the problem with bandaids in the form of some extra rewards to players via partnerships and their clout platform - all of which wouldve worked a lot better had they the IQ to increase prizepool on that fateful day instead of nerf To a game like this where you have guaranteed 3yrs prizepool - a weekly rotation and system that has been formed by the marketplace all on its own - was immediately broken There were (and still are) multiple chances for the founders to step in and make the required changes At every step they avoided doing anything for the core There has been not a single intent from April nerf to ever increase even 1e back in the prizepool even to just Show Intent An idea was given that 1e per Season = 6 weeks increase would still save the game and not hurt our "treasury" so much Tons of stuff that went down and their complete attitude change from somewhere around may got pretty much everyone thinking this is a slow rug In october 2025 when things were at their worst, finally the platinum league was released as another bandaid (this couldve like many others been such a weapon) and they gave 1 ETH after 6 months 😂 of everyone - every single player knows whats needs and needed to be done - except the devs who dont play the game. Do you realize what that did? They basically siphoned off other leagues to create the platinum league and make the prizepool while changing the structure again thus completely and utterly destroying the player base AGAIN for like maybe the 40th time Its crazy that there were still so many unique players 90% down bad but everyone, every discord, every tg on a mon you would see discussing line ups and the core game - the product was so much fun it didn't make sense that they wouldn't do well...somehow Mind you, the community even supported these "Darts" whole heartedly every single time while their portfolios looked like and elephant was walking over it every thursday 1000 "Darts" no hits but wont do few small simple things to save the main core game Every single DAY that the game remained at 20e per week is a day they wasted and killed off either on purpose or through sheer incompetence and stupidity Most people think it was on purpose and this was a perfect slow rug after thinking they've tried but wanted to pocket that $15m The team blaming the community for expecting fees to contribute to the game's growth and development is morally bankrupt IMO Status at this point: Core game has gone down from 15% complete to 10% lmao , indexer is down they are so out of touch with the game/product they have no idea whats happening with hero stars, etc Slowly starts becoming apparent to the entire community what some of us always knew/suspected - The founders i.e the decision makers and devs of this whole undertaking are painfully unaware, have 0 love or interest or understanding of their own game and now its been 1 1/2 years so the soft rug seems a lot more likely now🤯 Lets get to the grand finale and how this all blew up. 2 days ago, you will love this one: There are people down bad (me included) 6-7 figs basically everyone who ever played fantasy from the beginning except maybe 40 early players are even profitable in this game and.... Not a single person spoke about or tweeted about a single thing except our bullishness until now because - YES YOU CAN LAUGH AT US WE ARE ADDICTED TO THE GAME - we still believed in the game/team which was just in the process of throwing another "DART" That dart was called Arenas - Turns out it was just revamped tactics (remember those early failed darts?) However, and this dart actually looked pretty good. Arena is basically $5/$10/$20 entry tournaments to win say $1000 that run simultaneous to the core game (mon-thu) but you dont need to buy-in to the core cards The team have now spent these last 6-7 months from the previous failed Dart to now revamping this product Ok, although the mood overall was still pretty terrible at this time, as long as they are passionate and trying at least the community always found a way to support. Yes we just loved the game and theory crafting with each other everyday on multiple things crypto They have also after 2 years finally started workin on the UX, bugs etc😂🤝 Vibes are slowly starting to turn back on, players love being made hero and posting etc. Its actually looking like something decent might be on hand here after 8 months of robbery with retarded memecoin launchpads and shit - even if just for fantasy as whole product and does nothing much for Core as a game Several addicted core players enjoy playing arena. The biggest mistake this team made was going roundabout in every manner they could to try What they do: Run 3 simultaneous Arenas confidently Market as Overlay Tourney (basically if prizepool doesn't get filled the company pays for it) And when it doesn't get filled randomly without telling anyone, posting from the main account or anyone from the team at all do you know what they did? They've ENTERED DECKS from a "Bot" that links to some twitter account of one of their failed previous projects (apparently) not even from the main fantasy account if that was the case and then tried to defend themselves and even lie about it Imagine a poker company or DFS entering their own bot cause the lobby didn't get filled or going back on their word on the overlay? Its malicious, scammy and disgusting frankly. So wait.....you nuke rewards...nuke your entire player base because you want to build other products within this for revenue instead of on the CORE GAME that the investors and players paid you for and bought - in to ok Then you screw up with every attempt until this particular one after 2 years of doing...pretty much nothing And then finally you have a product, Market as OVERLAY and then add bots into that cause you don't want to spend $1200 out of a $15m war chest for your own "DART" that noone asked for or wanted but the community supports anyway and then do this? LMFAO I had to say the word "Overlay" 100 times yesterday but the concept seems far removed from them. It is one of the greatest marketing tools to acquire users into a prizepool based game of any kind (usually used in poker MTTS) to draw a crowd Just look around and find the responses on their bot thing and how they dealt with being found out after 24hrs its unreal The best part is - in their previous failed attempts they have already run an overlay to try and attract customers. So where exactly did this RANDOM BOT come from? Where was the tweet from ANYONE on the team or the team account that there existed such a bot before the arenas started? I didn't even play it, but the thinking and action is so shady and disgusting, it brought into question everything else. And this is how it all blew up into the entire community question the motives and direction of the team The only direction they seem actually inclined to is Chilling with that $15m, letting this die slowly and pretend to "keep throwing darts" extracting more and more from any remaining player base (Arenas is 10% + rake btw) Humour me how a company that has a war chest of $15mn is not willing to spend $1200 on its own products launch marketed as "Base Arenas" to bootstrap it? Now what? Next dart? On the TGE end: Everything they say about this is absolute garbage There are 4000+ ways to utilize fan to make brilliant flywheel for the game to atleast start things. Ill do that in another post We - the community had to beg for 6 months for them to bring back the only good thing they had ever done on core for voting in and out heroes No one asked for TGE, only a tease + increase in eth prizes to get momentum going to do THEIR job that is Attracting new users There is not ONE single player out there who asked for TGE. Every single person on the community said one thing only regarding this - You can TGE whenever you want, the idea of momentum when things are so bad is add a bit to the prizepool to show some Intent at least. Nothing Then the craziest part of it all and the soft rug some people saw coming from the day of the nerf + clout,shout garbage: The announcement after 2 years doing random shit - that the CORE game is not 'fun' enough to attract new users - so no extra $ will be put into it cause its "broken" meaning there is around 30 weeks left and they are gonna let the project die if there is no additional "revenue" LMFAO where is this revenue magically gonna come from when the company has siphoned off 60% of weekly "revenues" instead of putting it back in the game to build it first? Lil bro's completed 10% of the game everyone paid you to complete, don't even play it and is saying that...the most fun game ANY of us have ever played in Crypto and just life itself - is broken cause its not fun enough or blaming it on the user?? Craziest part of it all? They have $15m in their "company revenue" thing after scamming it out of their own product i.e the main core game where all this started All they have to do is put that back or atleast some of it into the treasury - lock it as prizes - and just work on the core product relentlessly, everything can literally turn back in 1 move Most projects in crypto get brutally destroyed at the first few mistakes, no one gets these many chances and a player base and community like this is unheard of Unfortunately when they tried to scam from their own new product - ARENAS - again ultimately someone caught them in 24 hours and everything you see now unfolding is cause the illusion broke Its basically about mindset and approach and this just stinks of maliciousness, greed and complete lack of understanding of their own product Its increasingly looking like they just wanna let the core game die and sunset it, move onto become a kaito type launchpad or something with their clout and..."continue throwing darts" i guess 😂 When will the french bros realise the only successful months or time in the entirety of this game where we also had fun, has happened for 1 1/2 years on Core when they did....nothing Its a known fact that if the 3 founders had just gone for a vacation from nov 2024 - nov 2025, and done absolutely....NOTHING...this would've been one of the most important products in all of crypto😂 So really the only option they have - if they really wanna try doing something about this product is the core game which they failed to understand in 2 years. I repeat - they still have a chance, thats the crazy thing If they don't it is obviously a Rug and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that fact. However, again I'm saying this to the founders Incase you can still summon the foresight to pivot back - bros the best months in this game and the best chance of this product seeing itself as a button on Elon's app is just try and understand why this game works only and only on prize pools in the core main game Its simple, you were almost there but got overconfident, pivoted to memecoin launchpads and kaito copys etc which is probably you're skill set and not gaming, got wrecked, basically destroyed the community...Just why not try this though? Even during the NERF back then when i called out the disaster it would lead to, you guys always said "we can change it back if this nerf and subsequent darts don't work" What happened to that? So everyone feels robbed not just of money - but of emotions, time, an incredible community, game and most importantly...the dream of what this could have been, because if I'm being honest - You had to REALLY REALLY TRY and screw this one up and that's exactly what they have done since May till now