Joseph Jordan

Re: Trump alleged UFO/Alien "Disclosure" speech Too late. The Church of Roswell sides with JD Vance Attn : @CTmagazine @charismamag Boldly No: Roswell pastors proclaim aliens are demonic Roswell, NM — A small group of denominationally unaffiliated Christian clergy in Roswell, New Mexico, publicly signed a joint seven-bullet-point doctrinal statement on July 2 declaring the modern UFO and alien abduction phenomenon to be extremely real but demonic in origin, nature and intent. The signing took place during the Second Christian Symposium on UFOs and Aliens, held and livestreamed during the opening evening of the world-famous Roswell UFO Festival. The 600-word document had been submitted by the symposium's five-member panel of Christian researchers: Jackie Alnor, Bruce Collins, Derek Gilbert, Joseph Jordan and Guy Malone. Three of them — Alnor, Jordan and Malone — had also been present for Roswell's First Christian Symposium on UFOs and Aliens in 2009, where 11 scholars, pastors, authors and researchers independently concluded that the phenomenon is spiritual rather than extraterrestrial in nature. Jim Suttle, pastor of the local nondenominational Calvary Chapel, was the first to sign the document publicly with a black marker on an enlarged display board, followed by Lonnie Owens, associate pastor of Christ's Church of Roswell. Suttle and Owens, aware of the opportunity to present the gospel to people coming from around the world visiting Roswell "searching for the truth," had themselves hosted a Christian alien-themed conference decades earlier and found themselves mostly already in agreement with the symposium's doctrinal statement before it was presented to them. Praying to open the symposium, Suttle said that after 31 years as a Roswell pastor he had found the Bible to be noticeably silent about aliens. "Instead, what it does tell us is that there are beings, interdimensional beings that we call angels and demons that very, very much interact with our world." Aside from "probable military" craft and people's imaginations, he added, "past that it would be demonic and lies." Owens said he believed many more clergy in the community than those gathered Thursday were "... grieved by people looking for love, really, in all the wrong places ... looking for truth, looking for ultimate answers ..." He expressed hope that the local Body of Christ would become more closely bonded together to "share real truth with people. … "I do believe that the search for meaning in this extraterrestrial area just is a diversion that keeps people from finding ultimate truth — from the true visitor from heaven, who did come and take residence on earth and live a perfect life and died on the cross for our sins and then rose from the dead and ascended. ... I just think a lot of this is kind of a sideshow." Pastor Joshua Carrell of nearby Hagerman's First Baptist Church likewise signed the declaration, saying, "I do believe that this is demonic in nature what these people are experiencing. ... But even if it isn't, our job is to encourage people. People who go through this are broken. They have PTSD. They're upset. They've been victimized by whatever this is. Our job is to talk to broken people." Echoing Owens’ sentiment, Carrell added that sharing the gospel was "... a better story than you're going to get from any of this stuff." Pastor Lawrence Sanchez of New Hope Family of God Church, who had also delivered the opening prayer at the original 2009 symposium and teaches on spiritual warfare and deliverance ministry, signed the proclamation, remarking that he had been dealing with demonic ministry since the 1970s "... And that we just want to do what's right, what pleases God. Amen. And we know what we're up against." Malone, who lives in Roswell, had opened by stating that they were there to build from the 2009 findings, saying, “... We're not asking questions or pondering things today; we've been teaching what our research has uncovered for decades already. Most you see here are already on the same page and we are not here to debate or persuade, today. We're here today to take action, and also not to simply to teach, but to impart. To equip Christian clergy for their ministry, is our hope. ... 'At the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established,'" he later said about their now-signed declaration, quoting Deuteronomy 19 and describing the public act as an historic milestone. Their signatures were ceremonially joined by local Christians present as well as afterward by local Pastor Joseph Ortega of Secret Place Ministries and Kevin Johnson, pastor of Boone, Iowa's Church of God of Prophecy had already signed the document to test their online form. The symposium itself focused on questions from clergy already familiar with the topic rather than introductory outreach. Jordan described the emphasis as answering "... strange questions ... unhealthy rabbit holes that lead to confusion and division," with sound doctrine and proven field research, giving the event its theme: "Just the F.A.Q.s, Ma'am." Panelists acknowledged differences on secondary theological questions while emphasizing unity on what Alnor described as "... only agreeing on what can be verified in Scripture." Malone said the symposium deliberately contrasted its public, Scripture-centered approach with recent claims that select Charismatic pastors had received private government briefings regarding UFO disclosure. "The Word of God is sufficient to equip us for all things," Malone said. "Christ calls us into the light, to expose the works of darkness ... Full disclosure is coming from God, not the government. We are the Christian pastoral meeting the devil warned you about." Organizers said clergy worldwide who agreed with the proclamation remained welcome to add their names and signatures agreeing with the document through christiansymposium.live. The entire five-hour recording can currently be viewed after searching YouTube for “Derek Gilbert Christian Symposium.” End Pastor Lawrence Sanchez, along with other area pastors, on Thursday, July 2, signed a 600-word placard signifying his agreement with a circulating document submitted by five panelists at the Second Christian Symposium on UFOs and Aliens held in Roswell, New Mexico, on July 2. Broadcaster Bruce Collins steadies the proclamation at right.