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Tis the time's plague when madmen lead the blind.

Joined September 2012
In which somehow it is on me to prove the counterfactual, when the point is the campaign cannot support its own claims of success
Those figures don't prove what you think they prove. We've been looking into this using various tools to track things. Info as follows: National's party vote fell from 38.08% in 2023 to 29.21% in 2026, a drop of nearly nine percentage points. Yet its electorate candidate vote fell by just 2.21 points, from 43.47% to 41.26%. In other words, National's electorate candidates held up remarkably well despite the party's collapse in support. The gap between National's candidate vote and party vote has more than doubled, from 5.39 to 12.05 percentage points. That's entirely consistent with increased split-voting, although it doesn't tell us how many voters were influenced by any particular campaign. Meanwhile, turnout is estimated to have fallen from 78.2% to 74.6%. Getting disillusioned voters to turn out at all was clearly another challenge. We won't know the full picture until the official results are in, but claiming these numbers prove the campaign made no difference is simply not supported by the evidence.
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ACT + NZF share of electorate seats actually INCREASED from 2023 to 2026 Lol Of course, mix by electorate matters. Tnere may have been consequential splitting But the SYV brigade are smelling their own farts
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While Nick doubles-down on dumb The most hilarious part of this being the ridiculous reference to a 20% increase without any connection to baseline, timing, and outcome
Yesterday’s election confirmed what so many already knew -National’s list MPs were never getting back in. The maths never lies. The writing had been on the wall for a long long time. Losing talented people is incredibly sad and i'm gutted for some of them. But strategic voting helped National win electorates and create an overhang to counter the left’s almost flawlessly executed overhang strategy. Without it the centre-right would have little chance of forming the next government. The left used the rules of MMP. The right had to do the same to have a chance. The numbers show a 20% increase in vote splitting on the right from the last election. The message clearly gained traction and thankfully has given the centre-right a real chance of forming the next government. Yet 706,000 party votes still went to National without adding seats beyond its electorate wins. Essentially wasted votes. I do wonder whether @NZNationalParty should have understood that maths and been more upfront about it with voters. Once the list seats were out of reach the success of the right bloc should have become the priority. We can be sad about losing good people and still recognise why strategic voting made sense. The maths doesn’t change to suit party loyalties. For me this comes back to the future we want for New Zealand. We should remember the damage history shows socialist and communist economic policies have done when they crush incentives to build and invest. They shrink the pie and drive out talent and capital. Then politicians act surprised when productivity falls and living standards go backwards. Sometimes I think the left forgets how much our living standards depend on businesses creating jobs and wealth. You cannot keep promising to spend more without backing the people who make that possible. At ZURU we employ hundreds of people here and plan to grow that to thousands over the next decade. Around 99.5% of our projected revenue of more than $10 billion next year will come from overseas. We are fighting to bring more of that wealth home and create opportunities for talented Kiwis to build careers and eventually businesses of their own. We need more companies doing that. More investment. More well-paid jobs. A bigger tax base to pay for better hospitals and schools. Higher living standards for everyone and better support for our most vulnerable. I want young people to see a future here and families to get ahead. That takes a country willing to back people who build things and create wealth. That is what I care about. Far more than any one party. At the end of the day I want NZ to kick ass.
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Fran speaking sense to Aunty Helen
Replying to @HelenClarkNZ
National's vote on the night is basically where the last opinion polls had it and higher than the 26% thereabouts that it was earlier. It is quite possible that Seymour's leadership on fiscal issues enticed right leaning voters and that NZF's hard campaigning also bore fruit.
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It's time for voters to embrace the spirit of MMP, and vote the candidate thar best suits their community and the party that best suits the country And unshackle from the unaparty Although that time was 30 years ago
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Meanwhile, over at the NZ Centre for Political Research page, Paul Dalley is very aggravated that National Party voters didn't think for themselves* *assimilate to the Borg and allocate their votes precisely to his direction Scratch so many 'conservatives', find a Marxist
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All those 700k+ who party voted National are non-people and should immediately be sent to the gulags
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So tired of simplistic 'wasted vote' commentary The much bigger tipping point is the 25% of eligible voters who may or may not put their mark on a ballot - but apparently they are invisible They're the only reason Jacinda won outright in 2020, but they're invisible
One thing that I think is not super well-understood about the overhang is how the wasted vote interacts with it. If Opportunity end up at 4.9%, the chances of a big overhang on the right drop a lot - but they probably won't mind as they will probably be in Govt anyway.
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Mathematicians have never solved the three-body problem, but come a New Zealand election lots of pundits think they can solve an eight body one
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Two more days of overhang, then we can finally get on with the hangover
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We need... we need... we need... Like his desires are everyone's need Peak high desperation low intellect energy gerrymandering, all predicted on a certain National electorate seat count that is anyone's guess Circling the plug hole...
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Poor @Andre82112993 Got all pissy then blocked without even knowing what he was getting pissy about 🤷‍♂️
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Makes me want to run 11km
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In which she is so self-involved she's asking the organisers for a special favour on her behalf When from the outset she could simply have acknowledged the rules breach and apologised Qiulae Wong offers to forfeit 11km result nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/a…
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Stupid never quits
CAUTION! ⚠️ Two ticks blue? 👀 Another of our Vote Smart billboards out in the wild! With the election just days away, there's still time to get your head around how MMP works and what your two votes actually do. Still a bit confused? We've got two handy resources to help you make sense of it all! 🌐 VoteSmart2026.co.nz 🔎 VoteCheck.co.nz 🗳️ Last day to vote: Saturday 7 November! 📢 Vote Smart 2026 campaign authorised by RCR Media | [email protected]
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I stuck into a Vote Smart campaign board meeting and secured this video of them in action
🗳️ WHAT'S THE STORY IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS? We're back with another four electorates from our new Vote Check tool! This time we're taking a look at Auckland Central, East Cape, Maungakiekie and Waitākere. There's a bit of everything in this batch. One close contest and three electorates where the projections show a more comfortable lead. But how comfortable is comfortable? And what might that mean for the electorate vote? Remember, these are projections based on available data, and the actual results could look quite different come Saturday. 🔎 Find your electorate and explore the numbers for yourself: votecheck.co.nz/ 📢 Vote Smart 2026 campaign authorised by RCR Media | [email protected]
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There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics And then, there's modelling - the 9th circle of hell
🗳️ HOW CLOSE IS YOUR ELECTORATE? We're taking a look at some of the closest contests on Vote Check, and there are some interesting races around the country! First up: West Coast–Tasman, Wairarapa, Wellington North and Banks Peninsula. According to the current projections, the gap between the top two candidates in each of these electorates is just 1 to 4 percentage points. Of course, projections aren't guarantees. Saturday's results could tell a different story! Curious about your own electorate? Have a nosey at our new tool: 🔎 votecheck.co.nz/ 📢 Vote Smart 2026 campaign authorised by RCR Media | [email protected]
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This one is dedicated to one of the more courageous lights in my intellectual sphere, for although he burns so dim he burns so relentlessly Here's to you, @G_Davidson_NZ And yes Graham - it's satirical
Replying to @coreisma @top_nz
queue jumping? she bought the ticket from someone else trade - the fundamental requirement for capitalism
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You need a better protocol in place for this @AklTransport I just exited Te Waihorotiu from Ōrakei where power was out to the HOP scanners. Same for passengers from Meadowbank Spent minutes not seconds at customer service to pay a higher manual ticket price and avoid penalty
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Many more people I suspect just scanned through and paid an extra $10 If we all had been stopping to resolve at Customer Service desks they would have back logged I can only imagine this impacting multiple trains and across multiple destinations
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