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“A big “reality check” for me was learning about psychopathy and that there exists a type of human who has no connection to the higher centers of universal love and awareness.
He or she is simply not wired from birth to embody empathic kindness or access conscience. While unable to access these qualities in this lifetime, he or she can still emulate and mimic them well enough to manipulate and deceive others.
This type of human is the psychopath, who hides behind a “mask of sanity,” creating misery and chaos that he or she feeds off of.
It goes way beyond mere greed and the pursuit of power. In the severe form of psychopathy I’m referring to, there is a complete absence of conscience, remorse, and emotional empathy.
The hardest thing for people to understand and come to terms with is that this type of psychopathy is not due to any trauma, upbringing, or childhood wounding, nor can it be healed through conventional psychological methods.
They aren’t necessarily criminals locked in prisons (nor the Hollywood version of the “crazy serial killer”), but they can be intelligent, successful CEOs, politicians, spiritual leaders, celebrities, husbands, wives, or the neighbor next door. They make up about 6-8% of humanity.
They can tell you exactly what you want to hear and appear compassionate, empathetic, and understanding, even showing emotions and crocodile tears, without meaning or feeling any of it. They are also pathological liars who never feel guilt or remorse.”
-Bernhard Guenther
Related to Episode 184 – Psychopaths And The Normalization Of Evil In Society
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“Suffering is one of the biggest catalysts for awakening, and comfort is one of the ways to murder the soul into complacency.
Things have gotten so crazy that people have been kicked out of their comfort zones, creating deeper suffering and deeper questioning; ultimately, the suffering has led them to question, “What am I going to do with myself? What’s the meaning of my life?
As long as we live mechanically, with the conditioned ego personality and what we were told to do by our parents, society, and culture, we can get very far from the soul.
What I found is that this is the gift of suffering. Sometimes there’s nowhere else to turn but to God and a deeper place within yourself.”
-Laura Matsue
Episode 127, Part 2 – How to Embody Your Soul
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“A lot of people go through life with a strange feeling that the life they’re living doesn’t align with who they truly are. Maybe on the outside, their life looks completely normal. They have a great career, a relationship, maybe they even have children, and they appear very successful and responsible to outsiders.
Yet inwardly, there’s a nagging sense that something is missing. They may even begin to feel disconnected from their own life, as if they’re playing a role, going through the motions rather than truly living, and they carefully censor what they say because they’re constantly worried about what other people may think.
Maybe they struggle to say no. Maybe they always put other people’s needs ahead of their own.
If you’re always relating to others through a carefully constructed version of yourself, it’s almost impossible to experience true intimacy. People can only connect with the masks you’re allowing them to see.
Even though their life may look good to outsiders, deep down they are right. Something is missing; it’s their True Self.
How did they lose the connection to who they really are? This pattern often begins so early that we completely forget how it started. Faced with the choice between preserving attachment to the people we needed for survival and authenticity, being true to ourselves, we will almost always choose attachment.
We learned that being ourselves, saying what we really thought, sharing how we really felt, threatened our safety. So we built a survival self, a false self, an inauthentic self. We learned to become who others needed us to be, and over time that adaptation became so automatic that we started believing the adaptation is who we really are.
The good news is that the True Self can never be destroyed. It may be deeply buried beneath years of adaptive survival mechanisms, but it always remains alive underneath all of that, waiting for the conditions in which you can safely emerge again.”
-Laura Matsue
Episode 179 – The True Self, The False Self, and Finding Yourself Again
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“Before trying to change anything in yourself, first really observe yourself. Establish the impartial witness and notice without trying to change anything in your habitual way of behaving, thinking, and reacting.
For example, do you notice yourself being more negatively oriented? Do you tend to complain a lot right away, or do you blame others? Maybe you tend to gossip or talk about others a lot. Do you tend to worry easily? Just being aware of it already initiates some change.
One key ingredient to raising your consciousness, according to David Hawkins, is not taking yourself so seriously. This means letting go of pride. He even says if you feel bad, have a tantrum, throw yourself on the ground, cry, scream, whatever it may be.
Express and experience emotion, but don’t project it on others; don’t try to analyze it. Feel your feelings, but don’t take yourself so seriously. It’s also important to be able to laugh at yourself.”
-Bernhard Guenther
Episode 138 Part 2 – How to Raise Your Level Of Consciousness
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“If someone leaves you feeling on edge and unsure of yourself, maybe they give you mixed signals, they’re hot and then they are cold, this can create obsession and anxiety, which you may interpret as chemistry.
We need to be aware that intensity or feeling on edge around someone does not necessarily mean there’s chemistry.
Just ask yourself, “Am I actually drawn to who this person is and how they show up in the world, and how they treat me? Or do I just feel activated by them? How does my body feel? Do I feel open and grounded? Do I feel calm around them? Or is there something in this relationship that makes me feel hypervigilant?”
This isn’t black and white because you might perceive and scan for signs of rejection and potential abandonment in a safe relationship if you haven’t done the nervous system and embodiment work to rewire those patterns.
We need to get in touch with our bodies, because if we had an intense childhood, intensity is often the nervous system recognizing something that feels familiar. It doesn’t mean the relationship is safe or compatible.”
-Laura Matsue
Episode 183 – Venus Retrograde: Review, Rewire & Rebirth Your Relationships
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“A psychopathic spiritual teacher can share valuable teachings that have helped people, while at the same time exploiting and abusing others.
A lot of people assume that someone who has spiritual knowledge or speaks eloquently about love and compassion, or even someone who demonstrates certain healing abilities, must also embody these qualities, but that is not always the case.
Even having so-called “spiritual experiences” or “psychic abilities” is not a sign of an embodied higher level of consciousness or morality. That’s also why followers often have difficulty acknowledging the abusive behavior of someone they admire.
They confuse the value of the teaching with the person’s psychological makeup and character combined with their positive projections. Then people become emotionally dependent on the teacher or religious authority. They may even defend the very person who is exploiting them.
We need to understand the mask of sanity and learn to discern someone’s true character through their actions over time, regardless of how charismatic or spiritually advanced they may appear.”
-Bernhard Guenther
Episode 184 – Psychopaths And The Normalization Of Evil In Society
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“Psychopaths are great psychoanalysts in many ways. They’re really good at assessing what your weaknesses are and how to manipulate you. They tend to be very efficient predators and have a sixth sense for who’s the weakest, the most vulnerable, the most insecure, and the most naive.
They will adapt their personality and their behavior depending on the person they’re dealing with. If they know that you like certain topics or are a certain type of person, they’re extremely good at molding themselves exactly to what they believe you will like and imitating those traits and qualities.
They can be very charismatic and almost like the best friend you wish you always had. We need to be highly sensitive when someone seems too good to be true or is telling us all the things we secretly want to hear.
That doesn’t mean that person is always a psychopath, but psychopaths themselves tend to be very good at eliciting positive emotions in us and fulfilling our unfulfilled desires through charm, flattery, and deception to gain trust.
As time goes on, psychopaths will resort to more psychological, emotional, and even physical intimidation. They also engage in something Martha Stout called pity play, where they try to exploit other people’s compassion.
They’ll tell you some sort of sad story to make you feel bad for them, expose some vulnerability to play on your emotions, and then, at the final stage, abandon you once you’ve served a purpose.”
-Laura Matsue
Episode 184 – Psychopaths And The Normalization Of Evil In Society
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“When you don’t feel your emotions consciously, they get stored in your body. When emotions are stored in the body and you check out of your body and live primarily in your head, you experience those emotions unconsciously.
Those unconscious emotions are also the ammunition which will then explode onto anyone who brings those feelings into consciousness.
People who are not aware of the ammunition they’re carrying are like loaded guns. They are waiting to explode and project onto people who remind them of the baggage they are carrying in their own bodies.
If we want to bring peace to the world, we must first make peace with the unprocessed feelings we carry in our bodies.
We can do this by implementing a simple practice into our daily lives: noticing the sensations and feelings in our bodies, breathing into them, and letting them go.”
-Laura Matsue
Related to Episode 103, Part 2 – 9 Ways to Heal Your Body, Mind, & Spirit with Somatic Work
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“Are we really all the same? We obviously share the same physical human body, regardless of race or nationality. Internally, however, our capacity to experience conscience, empathy, remorse, and love can differ tremendously.
Most of us automatically project our own emotional and moral qualities onto others. We assume everyone has access to these qualities and that anyone who behaves in more destructive ways must simply be misguided, traumatized, or in need of healing.
We assume that other people always think and feel like we do, generally speaking, but this assumption can leave us extremely vulnerable to manipulation by predators in human form. There are individuals whose psychological makeup is fundamentally different.
We’re not just talking about emotional wounding or psychological hardening. Nor are we talking about the epidemic of narcissism; we’re talking about psychopaths.
These are people with a complete lack of conscience and emotional empathy, whose destructive behavior is not driven by underlying insecurity, or any kind of wounding.
Based on the latest research, they comprise about 6% of humanity. In some cases, and this is very hard for some people to accept or understand, these people are born this way. It cannot simply be explained away as the result of childhood trauma or anything in their upbringing.”
-Bernhard Guenther
Episode 184 – Psychopaths And The Normalization Of Evil In Society
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