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๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ญ:๐ฎ๐ฎโ๐ฎ๐ฑ does not establish a ban on abortion. The ancient Hebrew consonantal text (without later vowel points) describes men fighting who strike a pregnant woman so that โher children come outโ (yatsa yeladeyha). If there is no further โharmโ (ason), the offender pays a fine; only if harm occurs does the law of retaliation apply. Most scholars read the โharmโ as injury to the woman, not as the death of a fetus treated as a full legal person. The scenario is accidental injury during a brawl, not a deliberate medical procedure, and the text reflects the limited medical categories of its time rather than a modern distinction between miscarriage and premature live birth. Claims that โGod/Yahweh bans abortionโ therefore rest on later interpretive traditions, not on a clear prohibition in the original Hebrew of this passage.
๐๐ถ๐ฏ๐น๐ถ๐ผ๐ด๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ต๐
1. ๐๐น๐น๐ถ๐ป๐ด๐๐ผ๐ป, ๐๐ผ๐ต๐ป. โMiscarriage or Premature Birth?โ The Bible Translator 37, no. 3 (1986): 334โ337.
2. ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐๐ผ๐ป, ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ป๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ฆ. โThe Problem of Exodus 21:22โ5 (Ius Talionis).โ In Essays in Jewish and Comparative Legal History, 75โ107. Leiden: Brill, 1975.
3. ๐ฃ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ฝ, ๐ช๐ถ๐น๐น๐ถ๐ฎ๐บ ๐. ๐. ๐๐
๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐ ๐ญ๐ตโ๐ฐ๐ฌ. Anchor Bible 2A. New York: Doubleday, 2006. (Commentary on 21:22โ25.)
4. ๐ช๐ฒ๐๐๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ, ๐ฅ๐ฎ๐๐บ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ. โLex Talionis and Exodus 21,22โ25.โ Revue Biblique 93 (1986): 52โ69.
5. ๐ฆ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ธ๐น๐ฒ, ๐๐ผ๐ฒ ๐ . โThe Interpretation of Exodus 21:22โ25 (Lex Talionis) and Abortion.โ Westminster Theological Journal 55 (1993): 233โ253.
6. ๐ ๐ถ๐น๐ด๐ฟ๐ผ๐บ, ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ฏ. โThe Betrothed Slave-Girl, Lev 19:20โ22.โ Zeitschrift fรผr die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 89 (1977): 43โ50. (Discusses related legal status of the fetus in biblical and ancient Near Eastern law.)
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๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฒ๐๐ถ๐
โข Genesis 6โ9 (especially 6:5โ7, 7:21โ23): The flood destroys all land life outside the ark, including children and infants. God states he will โblot outโ humanity because of wickedness.
โข Genesis 19: Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (inhabitants, including children, killed; Lotโs family spared).
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๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐
โข Exodus 12:29โ30: Death of the Egyptian firstborn (including children).
โข Exodus 17:8โ16: Battle with Amalek; later commands to blot out Amalekโs memory.
โข Exodus 23:23โ24, 31โ33; 34:11โ16: Commands to drive out and destroy Canaanite peoples and their worship.
Leviticus / Numbers
โข Numbers 21:1โ3, 21โ35; 31: Wars against Canaanite kings and Midian; Midianite males and non-virgin females killed; virgin girls spared.
โข Numbers 25: Plague kills 24,000 Israelites after Baal-Peor incident.
โข Numbers 14:26โ35; 16; 21:4โ9: Wilderness generation (including children who grow up under the sentence) dies for rebellion; further plagues and judgments.
โข Numbers 33:50โ56; Deuteronomy 7:1โ5, 16, 20โ26; 20:16โ18: Explicit commands to destroy the Canaanite nations completely (โyou shall devote them to complete destructionโฆ you shall not leave alive anything that breathesโ), including women and children in the listed cities.
๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐บ๐ (summary of the conquest mandate)
โข Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6: Accounts of total destruction of Sihon and Ogโs cities, โmen, women, and children.โ
โข Deuteronomy 7:1โ2, 16; 20:16โ18: The classic แธฅฤrem commands against the seven Canaanite nations: no treaties, total annihilation so they do not teach their practices.
โข Deuteronomy 13:12โ18; 17:2โ7: Commands to destroy Israelite cities or individuals that turn to other gods (including inhabitants).
๐๐ผ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ
โข Joshua 6:17โ21, 24 (Jericho): Everything living devoted to destruction; โthey devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old.โ
โข Joshua 8:24โ29 (Ai): All inhabitants killed.
โข Joshua 10โ11: Series of campaigns; repeated statements that Joshua left none remaining, โutterly destroyed all that breathedโ in the listed cities (e.g., 10:28โ40; 11:10โ14, 20).
โข Joshua 11:14โ15: Summary that Joshua did as Moses commanded regarding the total ban.
๐๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ๐ โ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐บ๐๐ฒ๐น
โข Judges 1โ3, 20โ21: Ongoing wars with Canaanites and Philistines; civil war in which Benjamin is nearly annihilated (including women and children in some accounts).
โข 1 Samuel 15:1โ33 (Saul and the Amalekites): Explicit command: โkill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.โ Saul is rejected for sparing Agag and some livestock. Samuel kills Agag.
โข 1 Samuel 27; 2 Samuel 8, 10โ12; 21: Davidโs campaigns against Philistines, Amalekites, Ammonites, Moabites, etc.; some accounts include total destruction or mass killing.
๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด๐ / ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ถ๐ฐ๐น๐ฒ๐ / ๐ฃ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฒ๐๐ (๐น๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐น ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ป๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐)
โข 1 Kings 18; 2 Kings 10: Elijah and Jehuโs actions against Baal worshipers.
โข 2 Kings 17; 24โ25; 2 Chronicles 36: Assyrian and Babylonian conquests of Israel and Judah presented as divine punishment for idolatry; mass death, deportation, and destruction of populations (including children implied in siege accounts).
โข Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Amos, etc.: Repeated oracles of judgment on Israel/Judah and on surrounding nations (Philistines, Moab, Ammon, Edom, etc.), often describing slaughter, siege, and the death of populations.
โข Psalm 137:8โ9: Imprecatory verse wishing the violent death of Babylonian infants.
๐ก๐ฒ๐ ๐ง๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐
The New Testament does not reissue the Canaanite แธฅฤrem commands or the flood as a model for present action. It contains:
โข References back to the flood and Sodom as examples of past judgment (Matthew 24:37โ39; Luke 17:26โ29; 2 Peter 2:5โ6; Jude 7).
โข Apocalyptic judgment language in Revelation (e.g., 6, 9, 16, 19) describing widespread death, but not ethnic conquest mandates of the Joshua type.
โข Jesusโ teachings emphasize enemy-love, non-retaliation, and care for children (Matthew 5:38โ48; 18:1โ6; 19:13โ15); Paul and others reinterpret or spiritualize older warfare motifs.
๐ฆ๐๐บ๐บ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐
โข The most explicit โkill all, including women and childrenโ language appears in Deuteronomy 7 and 20, Joshua 6โ11, and 1 Samuel 15.
โข The flood (Genesis 6โ9) is the single largest described mass death of children in the Hebrew Bible.
โข Punishments directed at Israel itself (wilderness deaths, later exiles) are framed as consequences of covenant breach and improper worship.
โข Christian Bibles include these texts in the Old Testament; the New Testament does not add parallel total-destruction commands against ethnic groups.
๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฒ๐๐ถ๐
โข Genesis 6โ9 (especially 6:5โ7, 7:21โ23): The flood destroys all land life outside the ark, including children and infants. God states he will โblot outโ humanity because of wickedness.
โข Genesis 19: Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (inhabitants, including children, killed; Lotโs family spared).
๐๐
๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐
โข Exodus 12:29โ30: Death of the Egyptian firstborn (including children).
โข Exodus 17:8โ16: Battle with Amalek; later commands to blot out Amalekโs memory.
โข Exodus 23:23โ24, 31โ33; 34:11โ16: Commands to drive out and destroy Canaanite peoples and their worship.
Leviticus / Numbers
โข Numbers 21:1โ3, 21โ35; 31: Wars against Canaanite kings and Midian; Midianite males and non-virgin females killed; virgin girls spared.
โข Numbers 25: Plague kills 24,000 Israelites after Baal-Peor incident.
โข Numbers 14:26โ35; 16; 21:4โ9: Wilderness generation (including children who grow up under the sentence) dies for rebellion; further plagues and judgments.
โข Numbers 33:50โ56; Deuteronomy 7:1โ5, 16, 20โ26; 20:16โ18: Explicit commands to destroy the Canaanite nations completely (โyou shall devote them to complete destructionโฆ you shall not leave alive anything that breathesโ), including women and children in the listed cities.
๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ผ๐บ๐ (summary of the conquest mandate)
โข Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6: Accounts of total destruction of Sihon and Ogโs cities, โmen, women, and children.โ
โข Deuteronomy 7:1โ2, 16; 20:16โ18: The classic แธฅฤrem commands against the seven Canaanite nations: no treaties, total annihilation so they do not teach their practices.
โข Deuteronomy 13:12โ18; 17:2โ7: Commands to destroy Israelite cities or individuals that turn to other gods (including inhabitants).
๐๐ผ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ
โข Joshua 6:17โ21, 24 (Jericho): Everything living devoted to destruction; โthey devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old.โ
โข Joshua 8:24โ29 (Ai): All inhabitants killed.
โข Joshua 10โ11: Series of campaigns; repeated statements that Joshua left none remaining, โutterly destroyed all that breathedโ in the listed cities (e.g., 10:28โ40; 11:10โ14, 20).
โข Joshua 11:14โ15: Summary that Joshua did as Moses commanded regarding the total ban.
๐๐๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ๐ โ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐บ๐๐ฒ๐น
โข Judges 1โ3, 20โ21: Ongoing wars with Canaanites and Philistines; civil war in which Benjamin is nearly annihilated (including women and children in some accounts).
โข 1 Samuel 15:1โ33 (Saul and the Amalekites): Explicit command: โkill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.โ Saul is rejected for sparing Agag and some livestock. Samuel kills Agag.
โข 1 Samuel 27; 2 Samuel 8, 10โ12; 21: Davidโs campaigns against Philistines, Amalekites, Ammonites, Moabites, etc.; some accounts include total destruction or mass killing.
๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด๐ / ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ถ๐ฐ๐น๐ฒ๐ / ๐ฃ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฒ๐๐ (๐น๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ท๐๐ฑ๐ด๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐น ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ป๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐)
โข 1 Kings 18; 2 Kings 10: Elijah and Jehuโs actions against Baal worshipers.
โข 2 Kings 17; 24โ25; 2 Chronicles 36: Assyrian and Babylonian conquests of Israel and Judah presented as divine punishment for idolatry; mass death, deportation, and destruction of populations (including children implied in siege accounts).
โข Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Amos, etc.: Repeated oracles of judgment on Israel/Judah and on surrounding nations (Philistines, Moab, Ammon, Edom, etc.), often describing slaughter, siege, and the death of populations.
โข Psalm 137:8โ9: Imprecatory verse wishing the violent death of Babylonian infants.
๐ก๐ฒ๐ ๐ง๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐
The New Testament does not reissue the Canaanite แธฅฤrem commands or the flood as a model for present action. It contains:
โข References back to the flood and Sodom as examples of past judgment (Matthew 24:37โ39; Luke 17:26โ29; 2 Peter 2:5โ6; Jude 7).
โข Apocalyptic judgment language in Revelation (e.g., 6, 9, 16, 19) describing widespread death, but not ethnic conquest mandates of the Joshua type.
โข Jesusโ teachings emphasize enemy-love, non-retaliation, and care for children (Matthew 5:38โ48; 18:1โ6; 19:13โ15); Paul and others reinterpret or spiritualize older warfare motifs.
๐ฆ๐๐บ๐บ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐
โข The most explicit โkill all, including women and childrenโ language appears in Deuteronomy 7 and 20, Joshua 6โ11, and 1 Samuel 15.
โข The flood (Genesis 6โ9) is the single largest described mass death of children in the Hebrew Bible.
โข Punishments directed at Israel itself (wilderness deaths, later exiles) are framed as consequences of covenant breach and improper worship.
โข Christian Bibles include these texts in the Old Testament; the New Testament does not add parallel total-destruction commands against ethnic groups.
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
The Bible never bans abortion. Not once.
The only abortion procedure in the entire Bible is in Numbers 5, performed by a priest, in God's own law, on a wife whose husband merely suspected her.
And Exodus 21 settles the value question: cause a miscarriage, you pay a fine. Kill the woman, you die. God priced them differently.
So when they tell you "life begins at conception, the Bible says so," ask for the verse.
They don't have one. They have a slogan their church handed them.
~TExB
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
Ukraine is continuing major strikes including launching a major overnight drone attack on Russian infrastructure including the Countryโs largest steel plant & a chemical manufacturing facility. Residents heard explosions & reported a fire near Novolipesk steel plant.
This passage comes from Hitlerโs Reichstag speech of 30 January 1939. In the surrounding context he sarcastically offers to โexportโ Jews to the democracies that publicly expressed sympathy for them while refusing to accept large-scale immigration.
The irony here of course is that Ben Shapiro is literally using 1:1 the 1930s National Socialist train of thought and logic with regards to the Jews.
As Adolf Hitler said in a public speech on 30th January 1939:
โEs ist ein Bild der Empรถrung, wenn man heute sieht, wie die demokratischen Weltproformatoren sich mit Mitleid fรผr das arme, verfolgte jรผdische Volk รผberschรผtten und doch herzlos bleiben, wenn es darum geht, ihnen zu helfen [โฆ] Wir sind bereit, alle diese Verbrecher diesen Lรคndern zur Verfรผgung zu stellen [โฆ] sie kรถnnen sie haben!โ
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
Germany and the German taxpayer has been the piggy bank of Europe since the introduction of the EURO.
The post Maastricht 92 EU might have been good for German multinational cooperations but it was very bad for the German citizens.
Time to end this.
There's a fantasy in Italy and Spain that Germany's TARGET2 claims aren't real. They're very real. They're subsidized loans from Germany that finance a standard of living in Italy and Spain that's artificially and unsustainably high. The AfD will end this.
robinjbrooks.substack.com/p/โฆ
In short: the Hebrew Bibleโs Noah story is a later, monotheistic reworking of a much older Mesopotamian flood tradition, not a second-century BCE invention by Hasmonean scribes.
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Tonight 10/28/2026 @
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Bring your friends and family to come get answers to questions and enjoy the food. Baruch HaShem thereโs plenty of both.
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In short: the Hebrew Bibleโs Noah story is a later, monotheistic reworking of a much older Mesopotamian flood tradition, not a second-century BCE invention by Hasmonean scribes.
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In short: the Hebrew Bibleโs Noah story is a later, monotheistic reworking of a much older Mesopotamian flood tradition, not a second-century BCE invention by Hasmonean scribes.
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The flood narrative in the Hebrew Bible (Genesis 6โ9) adapts an older Mesopotamian tradition of a universal deluge and a boat that preserves human and animal life. That tradition is preserved in cuneiform texts from ancient Mesopotamia, most famously the flood episode in the Epic of Gilgamesh (Tablet XI, featuring Utnapishtim) and the earlier Atrahasis Epic, as well as Sumerian flood stories. These Mesopotamian accounts predate the biblical version by many centuries.The biblical form of the story was shaped during the composition and redaction of the Pentateuch. While the precise stages of that process remain debated, the core flood account belongs to the broader stream of ancient Near Eastern literature that circulated in the region long before the Hellenistic period. It is not the product of Hasmonean-era scribes in the second century BCE; the Hasmonean period is too late for the primary literary formation of the Genesis narrative. Later scribal activity under the Hasmoneans (and earlier) involved copying, minor updating, and transmission of already-existing texts, not the original borrowing of the flood story from cuneiform archives.In short: the Hebrew Bibleโs Noah story is a later, monotheistic reworking of a much older Mesopotamian flood tradition, not a second-century BCE invention by Hasmonean scribes.
Replying to @ImaLibbyTarian @ZeekArkham
Iโve been getting cursed out๐๐๐
Replying to @dougsinger55 @ZeekArkham
Iโve been getting cursed out๐
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
The international humanist society held a meeting in Nova Vodolaha
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
We are about 2 steps from Donald having the FBI blow up some apartment blocks as an excuse to cancel the mid-terms.
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
Replying to @skscartoon
The endless slaughter of Ukrainian and Russians must stop.
We should some sympathy for the poor Russian conscripts too. Those kids have no choice but to fight and die in drone strikes.
@DSShakespeare, @dsshake.bsky #NAFO๐โ๏ธ๐๐บ๐ฆ retweeted
OTD in 1937 the Night of the Murdered Poets in Belarus. Stalinโs NKVD executed 132 leaders of Belarusian culture in one night.
Imagine it being state policy to do such a thing in this day and ageโฆ





























