Economic Media: A Laboratory, episode 1, is out on Greenpill.
If economic coordination now runs through protocols, ledgers and agents, what kind of medium is the economy becoming, and who gets to write in it?
Thank you @owocki and Greepill for hosting!
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Our first letter in a while!
"AI has arrived at our problem."
Since 2016 we've been specifying economic agency as protocol. This year AI, and the conversation, caught up with it. 🧵
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New @greenpillnet special season out now! 🌐
The first episode kicks off a new Greenpill mini-series on Economic Media. We’re exploring how protocols, ledgers, AI agents and computational systems are becoming the media through which economic coordination is recorded, interpreted and governed.
This guest season is by @econaut6 , Jorge López, and Jonathan Beller of the @ecospaceagency. They are exploring what changes if the economy is itself a medium: how screens and platforms turned meaning-making into value extraction, why accounting has a grammar of its own, and why blockchain distributed computation without distributing economic agency.
Who gets to define an asset, recognize a contribution or change a network's rules, and what would it take for care, community priorities and long-excluded people to count?
Along the way they discuss whether the economy is a medium at all, or an ecology of media, and close on why the series is a laboratory: an experimental, interdisciplinary space for building economic literacy and new practices.
Episode Timestamps
00:00 – Introducing the Economic Media Laboratory and its hosts
01:02 – Post-AGI economics
02:47 – What if the economy is a medium?
03:58 – Jonathan Beller: from industrial labor to attention and screen-based extraction
05:20 – Jorge López: technology ownership, authority, and economic power
07:05 – Technology, social struggle, and the extraction of everyday life
10:30 – Computational networks, expressive fluency, and the distribution of power
12:03 – LLMs make programmability accessible to more people
14:03 – AI, digital colonialism, and contested technological futures
15:49 – AI capabilities versus economic intelligence: what economic media make possible
18:23 – Meaning-making and the hidden economic protocol layer
20:02 – Accounting and media: how grammars organize meaning
23:00 – Economic literacy and the asymmetry between users and corporations
24:47 – Accounting as a network of records and mutually recognized changes
26:01 – Accounting's syntax, semantics, and unexplored expressivity
27:59 – From shared economic memory to capitalism's growth rule
31:51 – Mapping capital's source code: intervention, extraction, and economic rule-making
34:46 – Paper-era constraints and the compression of value into money
37:56 – Accounting's efficiency, historical violence, and excluded realities
40:15 – From bookkeeping to blockchain: what changed and what persisted
43:08 – Bitcoin's limited expressivity, capital markets, and social goals
47:52 – Distributed computation versus distributed economic protocols
48:50 – Currencies as bets on futures: funding alternative possibilities
50:28 – What does economic agency mean?
52:26 – Redefining assets and recognizing care and plural values
54:05 – Social media rewards and control over what a network recognizes
58:35 – A disagreement: economy as a medium or a media ecology?
01:00:12 – Changing economic agents, events, resources, and their relations
01:02:22 – Recognition, sovereignty, and communities defining their own value
01:04:18 – Why a laboratory: experimentation, practices, and economic literacy
01:07:14 – Xerox PARC as a model for exploring a new medium
01:08:59 – Interdisciplinary inquiry and listening beyond disciplinary biases
01:10:16 – Disagreement, partial knowledge, and the fields needed for future inquiry
01:14:16 – Translation into code, economic literacy, and agency from the edges
01:15:16 – Closing and continuing in episode two
You need to read this book
Recommendation from @owocki
PDF here:
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You need to read this book
Recommendation from @owocki
PDF here:
minorcompositions.info/wp-co…
It's released! We recommend - for everyone with the (economic) language capability.
We are releasing this weekend a small report: "Ohjelmoitavan talouden kasvu - Suosituksia Suomelle" we did together with @SitraFund
Available now: ecsa-labs.gitbook.io
[coming out also in English later this spring: "What is growth in a programmable economy?"]
For those in Helsinki, this is going to be fun - on this Sunday at #Käännefestival
An economic media lab: Sculpting economies - this weekend at the Käänne festival on Sun 18.1. 13-15 #economicmedialab #käännefestival #ecsa
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This weekend at the Käänne festival, on SUN 18.1. at 12-13 #Käännefestival #KÄÄNNE #economicmedialab #economicspaceagency #ecsa
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NEW @greenpillnet ep just dropped 🔥
@econaut6 (co-founder @ecospaceagency) + co-authors Dick Bryan & Jorge Lopez unpack their mind-bending book *Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression*
Key takeaways:
💸 Capital *is* a protocol
🆕 Post-capitalism is possible via new economic grammars
🌐 Programmable money gives us tools for a better economy
If econ + coordination + code = your jam, this one's for you 👇
🌐 Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the new Greenpill season — exploring tech, coordination & Protopia
00:40 – Introducing guest Akseli Virtanen and co-authors Dick Bryan & Jorge Lopez
02:00 – What is Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression about?
03:20 – Computational networks as new economic media
04:00 – The problem: today’s systems run on outdated economic logic
05:10 – Why we need new economic languages to express ecological and social value
06:20 – Viewing the economy as a networking protocol
07:00 – Capital as a coordination protocol, not a natural law
08:40 – How protocol politics define power and participation
09:40 – Why political change must happen at the level of infrastructure
11:20 – Understanding capital as an accounting protocol
12:10 – The interdisciplinary process of co-authoring the book
13:30 – Why protocols are the new unit of economic intervention
14:50 – How distributed protocols can re-engineer value systems
16:00 – Multiple logics of measurement: beyond price and profit
17:40 – How new metrics of “use value” redefine what counts as surplus
19:20 – Defining post-capitalism: new grammars for value creation
20:00 – Living “in the spread” between capitalism and post-capitalism
21:30 – The shift from exchange value to use value
23:00 – Distributed economic agency: moving power to the network edge
25:30 – Defining the Economic Space Agency — what it means to co-author economies
27:30 – Surplus logic: from profit to utility
29:00 – Designing programmable economic spaces for collective value
30:50 – How post-capitalism can interoperate with existing markets
33:10 – Why public goods need new accounting categories
35:00 – Coordination beyond the state: self-sustaining networks of value
37:00 – The liquidity problem: bootstrapping new economic systems
38:30 – Designing a bridge between capital and post-capital
40:20 – Respecting both systems’ internal logics for sustainable coexistence
42:30 – Innovation: the bridge as a design breakthrough
44:00 – Formalizing economics in programmable code
45:40 – How distributed systems expand what’s economically possible
47:30 – How to get involved: joining EXA’s newsletter & Economic Media Lab
48:30 – Final reflections: multiple metrics of value and economic imagination
49:10 – Closing remarks: keep building, experimenting, and coordinating
This shapes their outcomes, limitations, and the economic agency they afford to participants.
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