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🚨 NEW: Andrew & Tristan Tate File 67-Page Federal Habeas Petition Challenging Their Continued Detention
Andrew and Tristan Tate have filed a 67-page Petition for Writ of Habeas Corpus in the Southern District of Florida challenging their continued detention while they fight the UK extradition request.
This is not the extradition hearing itself, and it is not a lawsuit seeking damages against Marco Rubio. The petition challenges the legality of keeping the brothers incarcerated while the extradition proceedings are pending. Rubio is named as a respondent because of the Secretary of State’s role in the extradition process.
🔹 THE CENTRAL ARGUMENT: BAIL
The defense is directly challenging the way the court has applied the “special circumstances” standard from the 1903 Supreme Court case Wright v. Henkel.
McBride argues that Wright should NOT be interpreted to mean that an extraditee must first prove some extraordinary circumstance before being considered for release.
Instead, the defense argues that “special circumstances” should mean circumstances that reasonably assure the extradition court that the person will not flee or pose a danger to the community.
Their position is essentially:
If strict conditions can reasonably guarantee an extraditee’s appearance, incarceration should not automatically be required.
The petition specifically points to measures such as electronic monitoring, hired security, and other restrictive conditions that could ensure Andrew and Tristan remain available to the court.
The defense also argues that, because extradition proceedings are criminal in nature, the presumption should favor bail, with the government bearing the burden of establishing that detention is necessary because the extraditee presents a flight risk or danger to the community.
🔹 WHY THEY BELIEVE THEIR HISTORY MATTERS
The petition puts substantial emphasis on what happened in Romania.
Andrew and Tristan were arrested there in December 2022 and subsequently released under Romanian judicial conditions.
The defense says they remained under those conditions for years and complied with Romanian authorities.
On February 25, 2025, their Romanian travel restrictions were lifted.
Since then, according to the petition, they traveled extensively—including to the United States, UAE/Dubai, Croatia, the Bahamas, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Oman, Hong Kong, Uzbekistan, Russia, and Cyprus—and repeatedly returned to Bucharest to comply with their Romanian obligations.
The defense is using this as evidence that they have already demonstrated an ability to travel internationally without simply disappearing from Romanian proceedings.
🔹 THE UK HAD ALREADY OBTAINED A ROMANIAN SURRENDER ORDER
Another major point in the petition is that the UK had already initiated extradition proceedings against the Tates in Romania in March 2024.
According to the petition, the Romanian court agreed to surrender them to the UK after the Romanian criminal proceedings concluded.
The defense argues that the UK therefore had an existing route toward their eventual surrender, yet the brothers remained subject to Romanian proceedings and continued complying with the conditions imposed on them.
🔹 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE U.S.
The petition lays out the timeline:
July 18, 2026:
The Tates were arrested in Miami on provisional UK extradition warrants.
August 7:
They filed their motion seeking release pending extradition.
August 27:
The detention/bail hearing took place.
The defense argued that several circumstances justified release, including:
• The Romanian surrender orders
• The delay in the prosecution
• The availability of bail in the UK
• The lack of urgency
• Their public visibility
• Their history of compliance with Romanian conditions
• The defense’s challenge to probable cause
• Their conditions and length of confinement in the FDC Miami SHU
• Their pending Romanian and Palm Beach proceedings
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Comment Section
Whatever happened to the 35 alleged victims DIICOT was investigating?
Remember when prosecutors listed 35 people?
After the 1st indictment failed, they started a reinvestigation and kitchen sinked all these women. What happened? 🤔
⚖️🇷🇴 The Fake Witness Tampering Charge:
“Yet the Court pointed to competing evidence set forth by the government that the Tates were accused of "witness tampering" in Romania, even though the Tates explained at the hearing that they "had merely offered to pay for the travel and visiting expenses of women identified as victims of the alleged acts in Romania." Id. at 14. Based on this record, the Court found that the Tates failed to show they do not pose a danger to the community”
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From the Federal Court document.
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BTW: They still haven’t fixed the Romanian Indictment. They instead moved on to create a whole other case, and indictment. It’s now 2026
Vendetta retweeted
The court sentence today in the Andrew Tate and brother Tristan case clearly says they won’t be sent to the UK until the case here is solved, and if they get sentence to prison time, until that time is served. Court decision in Romanian below. Third paragraph.
Vendetta retweeted
- @Gadget440 If all of your lawsuits are dismissed, why on earth do you keep sitting on a bed praying for donations?
You stated that the lawsuits against you -filed by Andrew Tate -were dismissed.
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🇺🇸 Today, it was reported that Andrew Tate is not feeling well.
While I haven’t found collaborating sources at this time, I want to remind you of what happened in Romania.
Specifically, hospitals found a benign tumor.
I just want to bring you people back to reality. The Miami facility has received multiple complaints of unsanitary conditions- roach infestations unsanitary conditions, broken toilets, excessive heat, and access to drinking water.
I found a reporting from 2025 and 2026, including investigations by human-rights organizations and news outlets.
Detainees reported toilets that would not flush, overflowing waste.
In July 2025 Several Human rights organizations published - one writing a 92-page report documenting- of allegations of overcrowding, unsanitary conditions, inadequate medical care and degrading treatment at three Florida detention facilities, including FDC Miami.
I also found this: “Staff for Senator Dick Durbin's Senate Judiciary Committee visited FDC Miami on June 4–5, 2025, as part of an investigation into immigration detention conditions, medical care, segregation and access to lawyers.”Their findings were published on July 18, 2025.
July 2026 — Complaints and calls for intervention:
The Miami Herald reported that Florida advocates were collecting firsthand accounts of mistreatment, documenting at least 80 alleged incidents.
⚖️ NEW COURT AUTHORITY ENTERS THE FIGHT
IE: In reference to Crayons et al
(VP of NCOSE @Gadget440 @TheMilkBarTV @MattJury_Law @MisfitPatriot)
Andrew and Tristan Tate’s attorneys have submitted a newly issued Florida appeals court opinion to support their arguments over jurisdiction and the pending motions to dismiss.
The ruling replaced an earlier opinion issued in July and is now being brought before the court as it considers whether limited jurisdictional discovery should be allowed.
The rest of the gang are atill tangled up in the Court of Appeals - long months now- with still no dismissal insight.
🔥 90 MORE DAYS? Jane Doe’s surviving claims are now driving another push to delay trial.
@Cobratate v Jane Doe Florida
The latest motion argues that discovery has been repeatedly interrupted as Jane Doe’s counterclaim evolved from seven counts to ten, then down to five surviving counts.
If you don’t remember @DaniBPinter has asked for plenty of stays, pauses and motions delaying the calendar -and consistently - causing a sense of resets and delays.
Now, Plaintiffs want approximately 90 days to complete five depositions, obtain independent mental-health expert analysis, potentially examine Jane Doe, and challenge the clinical evidence supporting her claims of psychological injury, including complex PTSD.
They argue that the defense needs time to evaluate causation, preexisting conditions, alternative explanations, and projected treatment costs.
🚨👉The proposed result? A 70-day trial continuance, moving calendar call to February 26, 2027, and the trial window to March 8–April 30, 2027.
The irony they highlight: Defendants previously sought additional time themselves, and Plaintiffs say they accommodated supplemental discovery requests. Now, Plaintiffs are asking the court for more time of their own.
Vendetta retweeted
The difference between those who have everything and those with nothing in this world is heartbreaking 💔
Source: ferdychildrenfoundation1 on IG / Writer: Ian
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⚖️2015: Alleged Images of a Minor Found on Andrew Tate’s Seized Devices Now Under Scrutiny in IOPC Probe
👉Under Operation Sercial:
In July 2015, Hertfordshire Police seized Andrew Tate’s electronic devices. UK extradition documents allege that 168 indecent images of a child were found, including 66 classified as Category A, the most serious category.
The original case was closed in 2019 after the CPS declined to charge, and a later CPS review reached the same conclusion.
The IOPC investigation began in December 2023, following a voluntary referral from Hertfordshire Police. It was publicly announced in March 2026. In October 2026, the IOPC confirmed that its investigation also examines whether police properly handled the alleged images and potential evidence of child sexual exploitation and human trafficking.
The investigation was already underway before the October headlines.
🤖 Made with AI
October brought substantial developments in the Andrew Tate & Tristan Tate extradition cases, but not a final extradition decision. The next important developments are the defense's response to the government's arguments, any ruling on the habeas petition, and the November hearings. The Romanian review also matters because of the potential overlap between proceedings and the defense's ability to prepare while Andrew - Tristan remain in U.S. custody.
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We should have a response from Tate’s Lawyer for the Habeas Corpus on Monday.
Tate’s extradition lawyer,Howard Srebnick, is requesting an extension until Monday, November 2, which amounts to just one additional business day beyond the original Friday, October 30 deadline. The request cites lead counsel’s preparation for and attendance at the Alexander brothers’ sentencing on October 27, and the government does not oppose the extension.
Highlight: The DOJ had ample* time but what was highlighted here is that they still asked for an extension to reply to the habeas. #2026
Vendetta retweeted
⚖️🇺🇸🇬🇧 THE TATE EXTRADITION HEARINGS | NOVEMBER 19–20
*Judge Lauren Louis will consider the UK’s extradition request under the U.S.–UK Extradition Treaty and applicable U.S. extradition law. The court will assess whether the legal requirements for extradition are met, including whether the alleged conduct satisfies the applicable dual criminality requirement.
After the hearing, the judge could certify extraditability on some or all of the requested charges, or decline to certify some or all of them. If extraditability is certified, Andrew/ Tristan could then challenge that decision through habeas corpus proceedings and other available legal avenues. This is not a criminal trial to determine guilt or innocence.
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⚖️🇬🇧 So, just to bring clarity:
Andrew Tate testified that the belt video took place when Vivian was 17.
He not only maintained that this was personal but private.
🚨He states: “So that was private between us. That was leaked by the British police, actually, when they raided our house and found a phone from 2014 for a case that never went anywhere.
It was leaked to the press”
- Andrew Tate - Bond Hearing. Testimony 2026
More critical clarity:
👉”The UK allegations specifically say the girl worked in Andrew Tate’s webcam sex business when she was 17. However, there is an important distinction between the webcam allegations and the child-image charges.
According to ITV News’ reporting on October 27, 2026, UK police allege that:
The girl came to the UK from abroad to work in Tate’s webcam business.
Tate allegedly knew she was 17 at the time.
Police allegedly found 168 indecent images of a child on his devices, including images of this girl.
He is alleged to have shared images and a video of her committing an indecent act via WhatsApp.
Was he accused of putting her on webcam? The reporting establishes that she allegedly worked in his webcam business, but I cannot confirm from the sources I found that a specific UK charge alleges he forced or arranged for this particular 17-year-old to perform on webcam.
The broader UK prosecution does include separate charges of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation. Those allegations must be distinguished from the specific child-image offences.”
- There are people confusing the charges and what exactly they are all about.
The defense will fill in the gaps of relevant information on the 19th of any explanation, interpretation, or whatever else was overlooked.
⚖️🇬🇧 So, just to bring clarity:
Andrew Tate testified that the belt video took place when Vivian was 17.
He not only maintained that this was personal but private.
🚨He states: “So that was private between us. That was leaked by the British police, actually, when they raided our house and found a phone from 2014 for a case that never went anywhere.
It was leaked to the press”
- Andrew Tate - Bond Hearing. Testimony 2026
Circling Back to @MattJury_Law and a post that he made sometime last year:
Update:
The women who made the original allegations against Andrew Tate had been pushing for years for a proper investigation into how their reports were handled. Their lawyer, Matthew Jury of McCue Jury & Partners, has been advocating for greater scrutiny of the investigation for years.
In March 2026, the IOPC publicly announced an investigation into the handling of the cases, including potential gross misconduct proceedings against a former detective constable and misconduct inquiries into two former detective sergeants. Hertfordshire Constabulary also reopened its investigation into the original allegations around the same time.
The women welcomed the IOPC investigation, having spent years calling for the police’s handling of their reports to be examined. They are also pursuing separate civil claims in the High Court.
This is part of a wider IOPC investigation, following a voluntary referral in December 2023, into how Hertfordshire Constabulary handled sexual offence reports between 2013 and 2015.
The important point is that these women and their lawyer had been pushing for accountability for years before the investigation became public in March 2026. However, the IOPC has not publicly reported any final findings or conclusions, and no misconduct has been established.
So, if everyone remembers these women are apart of the civil case that has failed twice to obtain criminal charges.
🇬🇧 What a fine time and a perfect timing for a probe.
thetimes.com/uk/crime/articl…
🚨Update: The DOJ memorandum filed Monday October 26, 2026:
Identifies 39 counts for the U.S. extradition proceeding, excluding three counts involving indecent images of a child.
The judge must independently determine whether the legal requirements for extradition are satisfied for those 39 counts. The memorandum presents the government’s position, not the judge’s final decision.
🚨As also reflected in the bond hearing, Andrew Tate testified that the female , Viv, in the belt video was filmed when she was 17—not the ages of 14 or 15 frequently claimed online. He maintains that it was private.
🚨The core central allegation, as I’ve emphasized before, sexual exploitation and coercion for gain, Or the technical charge on court docket “Controlling Prostitution For Gain” is the driving force.
The next step is for the defense to challenge the government’s case for certifying the 39 counts as extraditable.
November 19, 2026, at 10:00 a.m.
1- Challenge evidence
2- Challenge the legal requirements
3- Challenging the government’s interpretation.
Vendetta retweeted
If you read @Cobratate habeas corpus petition and understood that the outdated 1903 Supreme Court standard is still being applied in extradition cases, you would understand what they are challenging. The courts are still relying on a standard established in 1903.
The legal standard for bail in extradition cases goes all the way back to Wright v. Henkel in 1903. More than 120 years later, it has never been overturned by the Supreme Court, and courts are still applying it today.
What makes this especially interesting is that Whitaker Wright was facing extradition over alleged financial fraud involving false company statements. The Supreme Court held that bail should not ordinarily be granted in extradition cases, while leaving room for exceptional circumstances.
That same special-circumstances standard continues to make bail extremely difficult to obtain. The Tate brothers’ lawyers challenged its constitutionality, but the judge said she was bound by existing Eleventh Circuit precedent. So despite more than a century of legal developments, this 1903 standard remains in place.
The other issue is that there is a more modern standard under 1984 Bail Reform Act, but it applies to defendants in the U.S. domestic criminal justice system. So that system only applies to people who are in jail or prison . But, those held pending international extradition are subject to a standard that still dates back to 1903! A system that modern judges refused to overturn.
From the passage of the Judiciary Act of 1789, 1 Stat. 73, 91, to the present Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 46(a)(1), 18 U.S.C.A., federal law has unequivocally provided that a person arrested for a non-capital offense shall be admitted to bail. This traditional right to freedom before conviction permits the unhampered preparation of a defense, and serves to prevent the infliction of punishment prior to conviction. Unless this right to bail before trial is preserved, the presumption of innocence, secured only after centuries of struggle, would lose its meaning.


















