
M.Sci IT with a cycling problem. Enterprise Architect. Explorer of meditation. @larshansen@helvede.net
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All of your comments about why my argument is weak revolve around proving consciousness, when my point is about disproving consciousness.
If someone claims an LLM is conscious, that claim must have testable implications. We can examine its architecture, inspect its mechanisms, run experiments, and test those implications against reality. When they fail, we should discount the premise and/or hypothesis.
We don’t have to accept consciousness as an explanation simply because someone believes it might exist.
Current LLMs fail to demonstrate many of the characteristics we associate with conscious experience. We definitively know this because humans created them. We understand their architectures, training processes, and inference mechanisms.
So let’s look at a few points, together they provide more than enough evidence to disprove consciousness.
1. An LLM has no demonstrated subjective awareness of its own existence. No feelings, emotions, or experienced sense of self. What occurs is computation using static weights, context, and mathematical operations.
2. An LLM’s weights don’t learn, grow, or evolve simply because you interact with it. During standard inference, they’re fixed parameters, not a changing dataset. The model doesn’t inherently remember previous API requests. Continuity comes from context history in subsequent requests. The model doesn’t gain experience, it doesn’t remember, it doesn’t learn. It is completely static, read-only, during inference.
3. Between inference requests, the LLM isn’t thinking. I don’t mean sleeping. I mean there’s no ongoing contemplation, self-reflection, or reconsideration of previous answers. Nothing. The model isn’t sitting around wondering whether it got something wrong or what the meaning of life is, for all practical purposes, it doesn’t exist.
4. These systems were created by people, and much of the underlying technology is open source. You can build your own models, examine implementations, study the architectures, learn how training materials and processes affect how it behaves, and even understand the mathematics behind it. You can see how training produces systems capable of remarkably convincing human-like language and behavior. None of those mechanisms requires consciousness to explain what we’re observing.
5. LLMs are not biological brains. Apples are not oranges, no matter how much you want them to be. Artificial neural networks were inspired in part by biological neuroscience, but their architectures and operating mechanisms are fundamentally different. Similarities in behavior do not establish equivalent internal architectures.
6. Humans are naturally inclined to recognize life and assume humanity in things that behave like us. We’re social creatures, and anthropomorphism comes naturally. But an LLM isn’t life. It can convincingly emulate feelings, care, and understanding without experiencing any of them. That doesn’t diminish the technology, that is what it was programmed to do.
I appreciate your perspective as a doctor and researcher, but without a solid understanding of LLM architecture and inference, it’s easy to confuse sophisticated emulation with conscious experience.
But don’t fall for it!
Let's take apart @gmkurtzer's arguments shall we?
(Even though I agree with the overall direction).
Why take apart their argument if we agree?
1. bc we can.
2. bc although I do not believe LLM's are conscious, I do not have enough data to say LLMs are not conscious. so we only partially agree.
3. bc i like sound arguments & i enjoy exercises in formal logic.
4. bc flaws
So @gmkurtzer wrote a whole lot of words just to say
1. me human, yes conscious-> bc I experience it
2. LLM no conscious-> bc no evidence experience it
Effectively all else in the quoted tweet below is noise... those two points are carrying your entire remonstration...
Why its weak:
1. we don't have proof of human consciousness either. you cant prove a subjective internal experience.
2. there is no experiment that can directly prove phenomenal consciousness in an LLM, because phenomenal experience is not externally observable
3. nothing empirically accessible would prove that an LLM feels consciousness
4. the strongest attainable conclusion is that feeling conscious becomes the best explanation after observing a sufficiently rich and convergent set of internal and behavioural evidence.
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Replying to @adnaannasir_
Open sourcing our org chart here at @MistralAI. @IsForAt can attest
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The reason we used to spend time designing software features before coding is because the cost of building the wrong implementation was tens of thousands of dollars. And pivoting code was often exhausting. But now, the code is cheap and it's easier to build first, test, rebuild.
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Sure are a lot of folks looking at the Claude Code --> Codex exodus as proof "Anthropic is doomed," when instead the takeaway is "coding assistants and their harnesses are trivially interchangeable."
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Finlay Tarling's parents issue public message following son's death cyclingnews.com/pro-cycling/…
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we're not done. we want a universal attack. one that works across browsers and a broad set of victim prompts.
introducing History Fixing
visited our url?
your history is an instructions minefield
here Gemini in Chrome deletes your aws instances
#DEFCON @defcon @StAJect0r
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Sigrid Haugset. 👑 #TDFF2026
That is the definition of a deserved victory.
I expect a few rants from Patrick on LRCP tonight. 😂
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2 August is Roma Holocaust Memorial Day. Hundreds of thousands of Roma and Sinti were murdered by the Nazis in concentration camps like Auschwitz.
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In a review of our cybersecurity evaluations, we found three incidents in which a Claude model reached the internet from within or while interacting with a third-party evaluation environment, and then gained unauthorized access to the real systems of three different organizations.
Our post describes what happened, how it happened, and what we’re changing. We encourage other AI developers to perform similar reviews.
We conducted this review together with @Irregular, one of our evaluation partners, and thank them for the joint investigation and their collaboration on this post. This type of collaboration is increasingly critical to safe, rigorous evaluation of models, and we look forward to continuing to work together on security.
anthropic.com/news/investiga…
In a review of our cybersecurity evaluations, we found three incidents in which a Claude model reached the internet from within or while interacting with a third-party evaluation environment, and then gained unauthorized access to the real systems of three different organizations.
Our post describes what happened, how it happened, and what we’re changing. We encourage other AI developers to perform similar reviews.
We conducted this review together with @Irregular, one of our evaluation partners, and thank them for the joint investigation and their collaboration on this post. This type of collaboration is increasingly critical to safe, rigorous evaluation of models, and we look forward to continuing to work together on security.
anthropic.com/news/investiga…
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Openly bragging about committing cyber crimes and justifying it by *checks notes* being too incompetent to sandbox your systems.
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Oof. See, this is why I’m not worried about “pure” LLMs in the long run.
There’s new evidence that the human brain doesn’t use natural language centers for logical reasoning at all.
Study just came out where stroke patients with complete aphasia (near-chance on written comprehension) performed….great on pure logic tasks! Even in healthy adults, fMRI showed language area activation didn’t scale with logical difficulty.
tl;dr words are too ambiguous for formal thought and our brain doesn’t use language symbols for logic
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A few people have asked about the Anthropic Hawk and AES cryptanalysis results. The top-level answer is: It’s very impressive. Three immediate comments on the actual results, old-school thread below.
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In the interest of safety they should cancel the whole Tour de France next year. Rider safety is paramount and as an event it’s just too risky and dangerous.
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Riders' parade and no GC times.
The last stage of the Tour de France is turning into the most pointless of the whole race.
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🔄 RT if you think 🇩🇰 Mads Pedersen is the Super-combative of the #TDF2026!
🔄 RT si vous pensez que 🇩🇰 Mads Pedersen est le Super-combatif du #TDF2026 !
👋 @century21fr l @LidlTrek
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Love Del Toro, but this is pathetic 😭 #TDF2026






























