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woke up to this little notification
For active LPs it's one of the most exciting things coming up imo
High level, Fluid DEX v2 offers you the following:
1) Cross margin your LP positions
Various collaterals contribute to one unified account health factor
Collateral
├ ETH / USDC LP
├ Gold
├reUSD
⇣
1 unified health factor
⇡
Debt
└ USDT / USDC LP
2) Earn money market rates on top of trading fees
ETH / USDC LP earns you:
+ trading fees based on liquidity provided
+ underlying money market rates (currently ~6% on USDC, ~1.6% on ETH)
This means even when out of range your capital works!
3) Leverage up your LPing, while the debt itself contributes to your LPing liquidity
Step 1 -> put 10k into ETH / USDC LP as collateral
Step 2 -> borrow 5k ETH / USDC debt *as an LP position*
Step 3 -> resupply that 5k as ETH / USDC LP collateral
Result:
10k collateral LP
+ 5k debt LP
+ 5k resupplied collateral LP
= 20k active DEX liquidity on 10k capital provided + 15K capital earning your money market lending yield - 5k costing you prevailing funding rates
Fluid DEX v2 unlocks a new frontier in terms of capital efficiency and AMMs
I like the prudent rollout described in the proposal
Looking forward to track the progress closely over the next 12 months
prediction f09702b7857167bd5a7687b0dfb26b138a6a932ee9ae716e5b1c5ca4fd4a707f
@credditxyz 's portfolio tracker will support detailed pnl breakdowns on a per position basis from day 1!
"This allows us to rapidly unwind positions", highlights why illiquid RWAs should run redemption models like any non traded business development company
process redemptions in batches, allocate available liquidity pro rata, and reflect updated loss estimates in NAV before payouts
if early redeemers can leave at a stale NAV, losses fall disproportionately on those who remain
example, a 5% loss on the original book becomes a 5.6% hit to remaining holders if 10% of the capital exits at the old NAV first.
passive holders end up exposed to larger write downs than the underlying economic loss they modeled
Every investment carries risk, but this misses how ONyc actually absorbs losses.
There's no junior tranche in ONyc itself, but there is a loss absorption layer:
- Premium is paid to OnRe upfront and held in their reserve.
- This premium is broken up roughly into two halves:
a) into yields for users (that current 11% you see) and
b) into what it think might be the expected loss
- Claims within those expectations are paid out of that expected loss reserve (it does not touch NAV).
- OnRe has replayed real events against its book. Hurricane Ida, Typhoon Jebi and Storm Bernd all came out at zero net NAV impact.
- Hurricane Ian, the costliest US storms on record, came out at about 3.5% NAV drawdown.
tl;dr yes, holders carry the risk beyond what's expected, but it would take a major event to impact NAV
Disclosure: @elementaldefi works closely with OnRe
If you don't want to be actively monitoring the risks, Elemental created ENDAS (Elemental Natural Disaster Alert System) specifically for OnRe's books. This allows us to rapidly unwind positions into stables if we detect something that could be serious enough to move the needle.
degenerate gambling is a massive market
@papertrade_xyz is my favorite version of it and likely the highest EV
clear rules, parabolic payoffs, no KOL driven grifts
rather have this succeed than anything else out there
These pure stablecoin LaaS integrations are very bullish for Fluid
First Paxos with USDG now UDSGO from OSL
These add no risk to the balance sheet while expanding Fluid's unstoppable liquidity network effects
USDGO chooses Jupiter Lend and Fluid for its DeFi debut 🌊
The OCC-regulated stablecoin from OSL (HKEX: 863) is now live, with trading liquidity on Jupiter Lend’s AMM powered by @0xfluid's Liquidity-as-a-Service.
Regulated dollars, now onchain.
private credit RWA are growing, yet only a minority of them are actually productive onchain
the two reasons usually given for why tokenizing private credit makes sense:
issuer side: distribution
holder side: novel access to yield sources, and making that yield productive via composability
the underrated one is liquidity
for these assets to be underwritten and become productive, curators and leveraged carry traders need to be able to exit atomically
but private credit has duration baked in, tokenized or not. in tradfi private credit is mostly illiquid and you can only redeem periodically
once tokenized, programmability and atomic settlement allow global secondary markets to emerge very efficiently
variable rate fixed income assets with a steadily rising share price is non volatile by nature.
AMMs are very well suited for this, no divergence loss in normal times and far more competitive for the issuer than a mandated active MM
@0xfluid and @juplend have leveraged this like no other with their capital efficient DEX designs and 'Liquidity as a Service' offering
below are the top 10 assets matching the OP criteria:
USDY, syrupUSDC, wYLDS, PRIME, sUSDAI, PST,
reUSD, ONYc, syrupUSDT and syrupUSDG
3 of the top 7 issuers from that list have signed up for LaaS (Re, Huma, UsdAI), Paxos did as of yesterday, but not part of this category).
the assets running on LaaS rank in the top 5 for deepest atomic liquidity in that list, with unwind slippage below 50bp (screenshot 1)
reUSD is a good example to showcase the benefits of having deep liquidity.
screenshot 2 charts the market price vs redemption basis of reUSD over the last 12 months, showing a clear improvement since running on LaaS
This has played a significant role in allowing its AUM to grow ~3x since (see screenshot 3)
Curators are willing to allocate to it, carry traders are comfortable running leverage.
the reason I am excited about this is that tokenization allows a historically illiquid asset class to become liquid
in theory, whatever spread an investor requires over the risk free rate includes a liquidity premium.
tokenized private credit can structurally compress that premium, which widens the set of real world opportunities that become economically feasible to fund
data provided by @credditxyz, @herd_eco
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LAAS.
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This is a nice summary of what has been cooking at Fluid over the last couple of months if you haven't been in the Telegram channel
The team has relentlessly pushed new initiatives despite the setbacks suffered from Resolv and Kelp
While the release of DEX v2 had to be pushed back due market conditions, Fluid managed to:
- establish itself as a key player within credit RWAs (through LAAS)
- grow its Solana market to overcome its biggest deployment on Ethereum
- launch fixed rate managed vaults that now generate 100k+ in monthly revenue
- take learnings from the kelp and resolve incidents to ship a new oracle design that powers context aware circuit breakers (more on that soon in a bigger credit RWA piece i am working on)
- launch its first third party curated market with Bitwise ($500m+ market size)
and DEX v2 is finally around the corner, very excited for its launch!
The whole debate between isolation and pooled lending models is only semantics
in practice on the supply side they are all pooled models
- Aave v4 hubs pool liquidity and allocate to spokes
- Meta Morpho vaults pool liquidity and allocate to markets
- Fluid instances pools liquidity and allocate to single collateral vaults
- Aave v3 instances pools liquidity and allocate via cross margin supply and borrow caps
They differ in terms of features such as oracles, rehypothecation, governance, circuit breakers, ability to set risk premia etc.
that is they differ in terms of tools available to a risk manager to manage the "pool"
the only thing isolated on the supply side is directly supplying to a morpho market but that is not happening in practice
Aave V4 myths
“Aave V4 doesn't isolated markets.”
No. Aave V4 hubs and spokes are isolated by default based on their risk profiles. Risk-adjusted markets can share liquidity through hubs, up to defined caps, supporting new use cases without unnecessarily fragmenting liquidity.
Full liquidity isolation is often counterproductive: it fragments capital, reduces utilization, and increases costs for users. These trade-offs become even more visible when incentives used to bootstrap isolated liquidity eventually run out.
“Hub-and-spoke fragments liquidity.”
It’s the opposite.
In V4, spokes represent lending markets, while hubs can share liquidity across those markets. This allows isolated risk profiles to access pooled liquidity, improving utilization and capital efficiency.
“It’s just isolated markets. Aave is catching up with curated vaults.”
A curated vault typically launches with zero liquidity and requires capital or incentives to bootstrap.
A V4 spoke can launch with the entire hub balance sheet behind it from day one.
That’s the difference between an isolated market and an isolated risk profile with access to pooled liquidity.
“V4 is complex.”
The architecture is simpler while remaining flexible enough to support a wide range of use cases. The overall codebase is also significantly smaller than Aave V3.
“V4 is still a new deployment. It’s too early to use.”
V4 is already securing $1.2B in deposits and is deployed across multiple networks, including Ethereum, Avalanche, and Arc.
V4 is already scaling.
“V4 is less open to curators.”
V4 already supports third-party curators such as EtherFi, with more to come.
The key difference is that curators can build and manage an entire market structure, rather than simply manage deposits inside a vault. This gives them the opportunity to participate in the economics of the broader lending market instead of being limited to fees on deposit AUM.
Over time, curators and integrators should be able to own more of their market structure and retain more of the economics they create.
The launch of yet another L1 with @arc is the least exciting news of the day that I can think of
99% of the work routers do is identical.
It's a waste of capital.
Fynd (router from @PropellerSwap) is open source.
Everyone should get behind it and improve it!
Routing would get better, more robust, and more transparent
edge can come from private orderflow etc.
This should be titled "0x routing made a mistake"
If you're an aggregator, you can't just route to arbitrary hooks! It's why Uniswap's own router has an approval process developers.uniswap.org/hook-…
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This is now my favourite page on Fluid (which we had on Juplend for a while)
It shows every multisig, its authorities, timelocks, oracles, feeds, risk research docs, and much more!
Every proof point behind Fluid, now on one page.
Finance is verifiable.
> fluid.io/transparency
LPing on AMMss is just really fun
might be a good idea to model that into utility curves before writing off AMMs
good guide on how to LP here:
xitter.cf/DefiIgnas/status/20951…
good tools @revertfinance @vfat_io
Ultimately all talk around LVR arguing passive LPs on AMMs have no future because they are loss making in expectation, assume all market participants have identical utility curve
That one utility curve seeks to maximise riskless profit (what remains for a market maker after hedging costs and their cost of capital)
The truth is that not all market participants share this same utility curve
AMMs allow all the utility curves to express themselves
claude is down. time to checkout memes on robinhood
whats good?
btw uniswap UI is still feels awful in 2026
lifetime fumble
incomprehensible to me why they cant get a descent product manager to make a usable UI
























