Sjoerd Heestermans

Activist: "Farmers won. The threshold's £2.5m now. Millionaires crying about tax." Farmer: "What's this field worth?" Activist: "I don't know. A lot." Farmer: "About £10,000 an acre round here. I've got 400 acres. So, a millionaire. 4 times." Activist: "Exactly." Farmer: "It made £22,000 last year. My wife does the books and she didn't pay herself. That's about half a percent on the £4m you're looking at." Activist: "Then sell some." Farmer: "Sell 100 acres and I've got a farm too small to run and a bill on the rest. Sell the lot and I've got a house and no job. It's £4m the way your kidney is worth £100,000. True on paper. Try spending it." Activist: "Other businesses pay inheritance tax." Farmer: "Other businesses pay it out of what they make. Mine makes half a percent. The bill's 20% on everything over the line, so £300,000. That's 14 years of profit, if the weather holds for 14 years, which it has never once done." Activist: "So you want a special exemption for being a farmer." Farmer: "I want the tax to be on money. You've built one on soil. The man who buys my 100 acres to get out of paying it won't grow a thing on them, and the relief was there to stop him in the first place." Activist: "You're crying poverty from a £4m farm." Farmer: "I'm crying poverty from a £22,000 wage. The £4m is what a man in a suit will pay for my job. You keep confusing what he'll pay to take it with what I get for doing it."