Mohamed Hesham

I don't normally engage with these but it's factually wrong with both universal canons. It was absolutely spelled out in Gaoru vs Saitama in the comics. The curve looked cartisian logarithmic because saitama was effectively fighting himself. The text says "instantly surpasses". The moment saitama experiences goku's god ki, he's goku+1. There's no arguing this. It's literally as written. There is one moment where Goku is ahead of saitama and it's not when he lands a hit, it's the instant he has intent. Gaoru is only injuring saitama because he was saitama a moment before, so the scale is slowly increasing. Goku could breathe on saitama and saitama is goku+1. That is literally how the character works. Even in this fight as shown, Saitama is instantly multiversal destruction level as goku crosses the threshold after the first punch. It's not "toon force" even, or "gag hero" it's just power scale as written, though those are both valid arguments too. Saitama surpasses the thing in front of him. The word "instantly " is used. Not "a moment later" the gaoru curve is because it's just saitama vs saitama. It would look like a hockey stick with goku, if the argument is that goku already has the power to defeat saitama in frame one, then also in frame one saitama tanks it, there's no avoiding that canon. They both have infinite power scaling tho: so I propose it would be a stalemate and probably pretty fun for both of them. Goku usually has to be defeated to surpass however so I imagine saitama would win round 1, and stalemate in round 2. Also: the chart was from gaoru's perspective as he understood it, making him a bit of an unreliable narrator- beyond that, even on gaoru's chart, saitama is already ahead of the mode:saitama in frame one. There are panels in opm that show he already surpasses before any hit lands, so in no way is it possible for Goku to surpass him, because he IS Goku effectively immediately. If there's some kind of argument here that allows an unaware of saitama's power goku to have the upper hand at any point I would like to know because I don't see it. Especially if this hinges on goku having the multiverse level ki destructive force from base form. Beyond that, ONE wrote Saitama as an absolute subversion of shonen power scaling. His entire conceptual gimmick is that limits do not apply to him, and any attempt to quantify him even with a graph just illustrates that he will immediately exist above whatever number you try to assign to him. ​If you treat the graph as a relative visual metaphor by gaoru rather than a strict mathematical constraint, then the narrator's text that he surpasses any threshold instantly becomes the actual rule of his character. And I'm more of a dragon ball fan more than an OPM fan, all that being said.