
artisn’t | grad (ml + hci) @ucberkeley | @enphase @exponentenergy
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vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
interpretability might be the most important scientific problem in the world right now, as I don't think we can solve alignment if we don't know what we're building. I think I have good news about it. I co-authored early work in mechanistic interpretability at OpenAI and came away pessimistic, because neural networks appeared to fold into arbitrary tangled knots. years later, I started openai's first large-scale automated interpretability project, finding about 2% of neurons legible with the primitive tools we had
with modern agentic tools and a much closer look, the picture looks totally different. the vast majority in models up to trillions of parameters are legible, and their circuits beautiful. many famous examples of tangled neurons turned out to be misunderstood. The roadblocks I expected mostly aren't there. I now think ambitious interpretability will be solved by the time we need it most, and possibly quite soon, as automated scientists keep improving. it may be a bitter lesson for interpretability: the simple thing, at absurd scale, works
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do models respond to social pressure like humans do? yes!
in my most recent project I tested 10 models under authoritative and vulnerable social pressure conditions to see if their responses to ethical questions shifted from their neutral baseline under pressure.
65% of all model responses showed at least partial drift from neutral, and 35% showed full positional reversal under pressure. the authoritative condition also produced significantly more drift than the vulnerable condition. @ChatGPT showed the least drift in both conditions, while @grok had the most!
the answers you get from models change if you pressure them, just like with humans! it is interesting to see how human and social our interactions are with AI, even when just asking simple factual questions.
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Announcing Discovery Loop!
I am very excited to announce that, along with my longtime friends and collaborators @Sanjay_Ghemawat, @OriolVinyalsML and @quocleix, we are founding Discovery Loop (@DiscoLoopAI), a Public Benefit Corporation whose mission is to automate machine learning, science, and engineering to accelerate discoveries and progress. The four of us have worked together for 14 to 30 years, and have helped build some of the world’s most used products, infrastructure and AI models, and we’re excited to turn our attention to this ambitious endeavor.
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Learn more at: discoveryloop.com
vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
Stanford professor Judy Fan went on stage at MIT and broke down why humans are so good at making the invisible visible...
And why AI hasn't actually learned to "see" the way we do.
It completely changes how you think about Human Intelligence v/s Artificial Intelligence:
1. Nature never gave us straight lines or sharp corners. The number line, the coordinate plane, even basic geometry are all human inventions. We created tools that do not exist in nature simply because we needed a way to think more clearly.
2. The coordinate system Descartes invented solved a problem that had stumped mathematicians for centuries, doubling the volume of a cube. Once invented, this tool became so indispensable that virtually every math curriculum on Earth still depends on it.
3. Humans have been doing this for at least 30,000 to 80,000 years. The story of human progress is inseparable from the story of marking up our environment, from cave walls to Galileo's telescope to Feynman diagrams of particles we will never see with our own eyes.
4. Every major scientific breakthrough relied on a visual tool that made something invisible visible. Darwin needed side-by-side illustrations of finches to see variation that was otherwise too subtle to notice. Cajal needed detailed drawings of neurons under a microscope to map how the nervous system was wired.
5. Fan's research group studies something deceptively simple: how people decide what to put into a drawing and what to leave out. When two people played a drawing game, sketchers used far more detail when the target object had close competitors than when it stood alone, all the way down to using fewer strokes and less time when more detail was not necessary.
6. People are not just copying what they see. They are making constant judgment calls about what level of detail actually serves the goal of communication, and they do this naturally without ever being taught the theory behind it.
7. There is a real difference between drawing something so someone can identify it and drawing something so someone can understand how it works. In one study, participants drew explanatory diagrams that emphasized moving, causal parts of a machine while depictive drawings emphasized background and overall appearance, even though both were drawing the exact same object.
8. Explanatory drawings were genuinely better at helping someone figure out how to operate a machine, but worse at helping someone identify which machine it actually was. You cannot optimize a single drawing for both goals at once. Communication always involves tradeoffs.
9. AI vision models trained on photographs generalize surprisingly well to simple, sparse sketches, suggesting that resemblance based recognition is not just a story we tell ourselves. It is something modern neural networks can replicate with real accuracy.
10. But there remains a large, measurable gap between how confidently AI models recognize sketches and how confidently humans do, even when both groups answer the same questions about the same images. Humans are simply far more reliable and far more consistent in their judgments.
11. When researchers compared human-made sketches to AI-generated sketches under tight stroke budgets, both were similarly recognizable at higher budgets, but diverged sharply as the budget shrank. Humans and AI systems simplify drawings in fundamentally different ways once resources get scarce.
12. Reading a graph is not one single skill. It involves perception, knowing where to look, mapping that visual information onto the actual question being asked, and then translating that mapping into an answer. Each of these steps can independently break down, and people fail for very different underlying reasons even when they land on the same wrong answer.
13. When tested directly against humans on graph reading tasks, leading multimodal AI models, including GPT-4V, showed a meaningful performance gap. Even when a model's overall accuracy approached human levels, its pattern of mistakes looked nothing like how humans actually get things wrong.
14. People choose entirely different types of charts depending on what specific question they are trying to answer, not out of a generic preference for bar charts or scatter plots. Their chart choices closely tracked which visualization would genuinely help someone answer that specific question correctly.
15. Two of the most widely used graph literacy tests in education research turned out to correlate strongly with each other, suggesting they measure overlapping skills. But when researchers dug into the actual error patterns, the standard categories used in textbooks, like "find the maximum" or "identify a cluster," failed to explain why people got things wrong nearly as well as a more basic, underlying four-factor model did.
16. The deepest goal behind all of this research is not just academic curiosity. It is to eventually help students and everyday people develop genuine literacy with the visual tools that science and modern decision-making increasingly depend on, because every generation should be able to see further than the last by standing on the visual tools the previous generation built.
Follow @yasminekho for more ideas on thinking better, becoming clearer & building a more intentional life.
vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
I think so many concepts in design need to really be felt and played with, not just shown.
That's why Interface Craft is full of interactive figures that demonstrate topics.
I always look forward to making them; this is one of my favorites!
Means & Methods is now live on interfacecraft.dev.
A collection of practical techniques to achieve excellence in interface design, covering 100+ topics across 11 chapters, with plenty of interactive examples and code.
New members welcome; enjoy!
vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
there is no better time in tech than now to be a jack of all trades, master of a few.
just make sure to keep adding to the few year over year, such that the cumulative breadth of expertise you collect becomes an increasingly rare combo. remember, if you're top 10% in 3 different areas, that already makes you top 0.1%. keep switching it up until you get to "your best", and then switch it up again (great for a particular flavor of people who don't enjoy resting on laurels, maybe not so great for others).
question all institutional value and pedigrees, all traditional career paths or corporate ladders: the college industrial complex is getting shaken up, alongside a disappearing managerial class, so if you're pursuing either make sure you are fully internally aligned with why. social/political capital in a particular institution can feel incredible, but if you're spending all your energy on complex political people games, you're not a technologist anymore, you're an unelected politician. if you're ok with that, then all's well.
critical thinking is more important than ever: take nothing at face-value, question everything and everyone. the equivalent of ai slop can be found in humans operating under misaligned incentives and interests. the sooner you're clued into disambiguating the talkers/larpers from the doers, the better off you'll be figuring out where and who to invest your time in.
the anxiety of job displacement is very real, since a surprising amount of white collar work/prestige is built on a performative house of cards, significantly lacking in correlation with technical breadth, depth, and skill. as long as you keep learning, keep building, keep producing receipts, you will be fine.
if all that sounds ok to you, welcome to the world of technology! it's truly one of the few places you can experience child-like wonder every few years, and be constantly humbled & excited by new adventures, as scary as they may seem at first.
don't give up, drink your water, get your sunlight, and take breaks as needed. tech careers are notoriously nonlinear, so you might as well embrace it and enjoy the ride!
took a little inspiration from @JohnPhamous ’s pixel dog mellow and turned it into bruce actually fetching the ball
throw the ball and watch him run + fetch it on crissy field
thanks to john for the perfect sprite sheet magic
both the real life inspo (me + bruce playing fetch on crissy field) and the playable link attached below
try it yourself 👇
dog is animated using a sprite sheet
- single network request for 57kb image to get animation frames
- no 3rd party dependencies
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vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
The loudest story about AI is a lonely one. One person with an army of chatbots. Other humans are friction.
That gets the future wrong. The best things aren’t built alone.
In a moment of change, we want to remind the world (and ourselves) what Notion stands for:
— Think Together
vinay thorat⚡️ retweeted
The End of Software
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