One element of Catholicism is obedience. I am not permitted to reject the Church's Social Teachings, I must assent to them. That is not to say every word is sacred or infallible dogma, and not every teaching is of equal weight, and there are many questions still open, but as a Catholic I have a coherent body of authority to look to and must treat it as an authority. Otherwise it's just an ivory tower of nerds and not the shepherds, not the Church. So it is not a matter of group, there is no "identity" in it, we see these as completely universalist authoritative statements that apply to all equally unless otherwise specified. It is Classical Realism, it is Universalism. I know this seems strange in our era but Christianity has always been this way until the introduction of Particularism or more narrowly in heresies (Arianism, etc); you will not find an Apostolic Church (Eastern, Oriental, etc) that holds a different view, they differ only on where the authority lay and most are trying to re-unify. This is Augustine, this is Aquinas. It can be disregarded, but one disregards or at least defaces the West's moral core in doing so (or, at least the Christian West's). Such authority structures were also part of historical Judaism, before the destruction of the Temple and the scattering of authority, we should remember. That aside, I am open to exploring the Encyclical itself, in rescuing it from perceptions of allegiance w/ the woke right.

I'm a Catholic😭 I must, therefore, disagree, and propose that such a conclusion miiiight fail to consider that the Church has always seen itself as the moral authority, as the Rock of humanity. It cannot move from that position. I would also propose one carefully avoid taking Groyper interpretations of the Church's teachings as valid. Such interpretations would make for a very, very, dark Western history. Same, unfortunately, for Insurrection Barbie's interpretations, which would make for another sort of very dark Western genesis. The insight that "Christian Nationalism is bad" is an insight the Church had over a thousand years ago. To expand on the moral authority you see taken for granted in the document, it is that same steadfastness/consistency that keeps Rerum Novarum, an authoritative document, purely in line w/ Thomistic Natural Law, later expressed more precisely as "personalism," which is its own (very, very, opposed to state collectivism!) thing. That's what you see here, Thomism. The Church is not like Islam, it does not blend state control w/ the Church's moral authority, just take it from my favorite Jewish historian (and unequaled expert)! xitter.cf/InHumaneShape/status/2…

@grok Does Venerable Matteo Ricci essentially culminate in the construction of a defense of classical realism in opposition to Daoist/Buddhist/etc ontologies? Would a group like The Realist Guild uncover much wisdom in his uniquely universalist and multi-civilizational efforts?

I'm confused 🙃 is your argument that the document is good and self-refutes the poseur abuses of it by collectivists, or that it is, itself, inherently collectivist?

everyone getting worked up over a few hundred bucks

There exists in the apostolic Christian churches something vulnerable, something all creatures are expected to joyfully defend to the death—to the crumb. If the revolution happens, you will find me first at the Catholic and Orthodox churches, safeguarding God, as the bees did.

Made me stop hating Texas sports teams. A senator, congresspeople, who knows who all else, and a roaring, screaming crowd of tiny people all crammed in front of a terminal. That's after the fire trucks doused us...and we weren't even a Texas-based unit. It was a LAYOVER.

Ugh these letters were the best😭 We even had a whole elementary school show up to greet us on one of the return flights.

As long as we're trying, we're probably in a good spot.

trust me, the immigration lawyer world taking advantage of unenforced immigration law is a huge part of why honest and accidental overstays get mixed in w/ the rest of the B2-4-lyfe crowd. The dude married an American, there's no reason to be an overstay unless his lawyer didn't submit the paperwork.

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The question was not whether Latin and French were the mass vernaculars, the question was whether the people who could read to the competent degree required to read an advanced work like the Bible, people that this translation would be a responsible, useful text for, could, overwhelmingly, also read Latin or French.

And suitable was English at this time as a language for translation? Was it not transitioning from Middle to Modern? Was it not broken into at least three dialects? Did it have any established grammar or spelling? When, good @grok, was tge Oxford dictionary finished, how many hundreds of years later, and how much effort, frustration, and time did it take to finish it according to books like "The Lexicographer's Dilemma"? Weren't approved Vernacular translations tied to languages that the the vast majority of the educated (and literate) could read, anyway? The languages in which one could learn grammar? Languages like Latin or French, languages that'd both had a long presence in Britain and were far more stable? Isn't the Vulgate ITSELF a vernacular translation for the Latin Church, of which England saw itself a member, even in the early days of King Henry VIII's efforts to tie it to his own power? To speak nothing of the Eastern Churches' translations. Did Protestants execute people for heresy? Was Tyndale not given the usual two chances to correct his efforts by the church before being left to the state? Wasn't the concern heretical and sloppy interpretations that'd pull people away from communion with the one Church, which was the Church of Europe up to around this time? Exactly the sort of thing Tyndale's Bible proved to be? Wasn't there a fervor of Humanist proto-modernism and heretical Particularism rising through Europe, which such unapproved translations for "the masses" clearly reflected?

3>4 2 is incidental 1 would be actively bad

shave the beard, wear a too-tight suit and a fedora, they'll never notice

>Tyndale was hunted, exiled, and betrayed for the “crime” of translating the Bible into English so ordinary people could read it. You memorialize your "martyrs" with lies? Dark path.

Great, great, piece Don.

Lotta old dogs almost eager for their Wylie Burp moment.

Depends where. Arguably better than what's currently happening in Pakistan/Afghanistan. Probably a solid 2% improvement.

Kingsley (who's been a decent guard for where we got him) and CEH (who was a Mahomes pick). Who else?