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Better yet.
Let the separatists get elected as separatists instead of UCPers.
Only proportional representation makes it possible.
Otherwise they are held hostage.
The NDP use to support proportional representation.
They should support it again.
Two parties are not enough.
Two parties?
Is like communism.
It really leaves voters without choice.
The separatists have to join the UCP to get representation.
With proportional representation Alberta would get a viable separatist party or two and a viable Tory party.
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Something I find interesting about this discourse is why the UCP just doesn't pass proportional representation since they are more than capable of forming majorities under it. And be very hard to call rigging by the ANDP due to other NDP branches being pro-PR.
Fair Vote Manitoba retweeted
This is an argument in favour of proportional representation, not really a case for gerrymandering.
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I'm really happy to see all my UCP friends in Alberta now strongly arguing that % of votes should be % of seats
Keep going guys, we're almost at PR
You know how powerful FPTP is in Alberta?
Separatists can only get representation by supporting a big tent party.
You are both wrong.
First-Past-The-Post creates seat distortions. FPTP gave the UCP more seats than it earned by voter support in 2023. FPTP often picks the party with the highest number of votes and then gives this winner more seats than it earned.
Representation by population may standardize the number of people inside a geographic boundary; it does nothing to fix the systemic flaws of winner-take-all voting with its wasted, discarded votes, two party duopoly, and vote split elections.
Proportional representation reflects the way people voted. Legislative power comes from a direct link between seats and voter support.
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First-past-the-post lets party corruption slide as long as they hold 30–40% in key swing seats.
Proportional representation changes the game: governments need broad majority support to govern, meaning corruption can trigger severe electoral punishment and force accountability.
Months after resigning from Premier Doug Ford’s cabinet over a hotel expenses scandal, Progressive Conservative MPP Stan Cho returned to Queen’s Park with a new title, a higher salary and scorn from opposition parties.
globalnews.ca/news/12123084/…
#onpoli
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Alberta has divided regional representation. We should have a better voting system so the vast majority of voters are represented regionally regardless of how they voted.
Proportional representation is a level playing field.
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Level the playing field?
The UCP won 52.63% of the popular vote in the 2023 election but ended up with 56.32% of the seats.
The NDP won 44.05% of the popular vote but ended up with 43.68% of the seats.
If the playing field is currently unlevel, it is in the UCP’s favour.
Total garbage. @DonBraid is literally just regurgitating exactly what is NDP buddies are telling him. Would be nice if he represented both sides of an issue for once.
One of the most respected court of appeal justices in Alberta history is chairing the boundary committee. It’s a lie to say that it’s the UCP. The maps aren’t even available yet (though clearly leaked to the NDP by someone).
In addition, Judge Miller and half the NDP caucus complained that there should be 2 additional seats added to account for population growth. So that was done and left to the independent judge-led committee to figure out how to do it. I assume they have done so.
Further, last election the NDP lost the popular vote by almost 10 percent and still almost ended up winning the most seats. So obviously they don’t want any change whatsoever that could level the playing field.
How do you explain that Don? Did the NDP gerrymander the map last go around under Notley? Was the 2023 election undemocratic too?
The UCP isn’t making that claim because it’s disrespectful of the people - including the judge - who did the hard work of determining those past boundaries.
Your bias is so clear Don. It’s disturbing.
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If you really want to talk about vote efficiency, the UCP needed an average of about 18,900 votes to win each seat they got.
The NDP needed about 20,400.
The idea the NDP has a more efficient vote in Alberta is a downright myth #ableg
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Manning’s gerrymandered super majority (when he replaced ranked ballot Rural-AV/Urban-STV with FPTP) was worse, but courts have ruled differently since the 1950s. Saskatchewan v Carter (1991) & Quebec v Lalande (2026) would support a challenge to a such partisan gerrymander.
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I agree the Alberta Govt needs to go back to the majority repot redistribution recommendations.
The Govt can also start a path to proportional representation to get rid of the risk of Gerrymandering.
FPTP is not a level playing field.
The electoral history of Alberta's single member district system with only one New Democratic Party government and that one came from a vote split shows an non-representative electoral system.
Until the Alberta NDP formed government, it supported proportional representation. Proportional representation would preempted gerrymandering. Now separatists would sit as MLAs instead of supporting a united party to prevent another vote split.
Don't expect courts to intervene on a constitutional challenges. A Charter case for fairvoting is not a slam dunk and in its fifth year.
Expect instead other provinces to follow suit.
Politicians don't care about fairness or democracy, it seems. the number one priority is getting elected. If a vote split will do it, they'll take it, but gerrymandering is even better.
Fake voting is dandy.
But gerrymandering is quicker.
@Challenge4FV
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Ftr the NDP don't have a gerrymander in AB - competitive seats are in urban areas, and the NDP are an urban party. Thanks to FPTP, they can win based on that performance while the UCP runs up the score in rural areas.
But the boundaries aren't drawn to promote that. #ableg
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FPTP has proven that it leads to disproportional results, tons of strategic voting and vote-splitting, governments that don’t align with the will of the majority. It has proven that it’s a bad electoral system that needs to be replaced. And FPTP has a lot more failures than PR systems. PR systems are better than FPTP & there are many Canadians who want it.
PR didn’t get voted down in 2005, a majority of BCers wanted it. And there’s nothing wrong with having a referendum 8 or 10 years later (if there is one) & consulting voters over the voting system they want to vote under and if they still back FPTP, while learning from the mistakes of the last referendum.
I will advocate for the issues that I like & care about, whether you personally like it or not, and part of it is addressing reasons why some voters may be against a Proportional Representation (like some right-wingers believing that it wouldn’t lead to a right-wing government, which was my original post in which you commented under).
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You’re just describing the fundamental problems with FPTP, not gerrymandering.
If you truly care about votes reflecting seats, you’d propose a switch to a PR system.
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Don't forget first-past-the-post's role here.
Eby gambled on a snap election with ~40% polling, hoping to expand his majority.
Proportional representation would end this toxic incentive to gamble and encourage genuine cooperation instead.
