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RL for reasoning often rely on verifiers — great for math, but tricky for creative writing or open-ended research. Meet RARO: a new paradigm that teaches LLMs to reason via adversarial games instead of verification. No verifiers. No environments. Just demonstrations. 🧵👇
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pretty cool paper on learning to reason from demonstrations arxiv.org/abs/2511.21667 tl;dr instead of SFT'ing on expert demonstrations, try doing inverse RL to learn a critic. This lets you do RL on domains without 'natural' verifiers
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“heard you guys had trouble verifying the unverifiable” - GANfather
RL for reasoning often rely on verifiers — great for math, but tricky for creative writing or open-ended research. Meet RARO: a new paradigm that teaches LLMs to reason via adversarial games instead of verification. No verifiers. No environments. Just demonstrations. 🧵👇
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RL on LLMs with no verifiers & environments... But how? This paper trains LLMs to reason without using verifiers or human preferences, all by turning expert demos into an adversarial game models can then learn self-correcting reasoning, even rivaling verifier-based RL methods!
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This is super cool, basically GANs for LLM post-training policy tries to mimic expert answers, critic tries to identify expert answer vs policy answer I'm curious to try this out on some medical tasks... I had similar ideas about 2 years ago which I was discussing in EleutherAI but I was trying to apply it to RLHF and didn't pursue any further... skill issue on my part I guess lol
RL for reasoning often rely on verifiers — great for math, but tricky for creative writing or open-ended research. Meet RARO: a new paradigm that teaches LLMs to reason via adversarial games instead of verification. No verifiers. No environments. Just demonstrations. 🧵👇
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someone made self-play work! RARO is cool to tackle the unstable adversarial training setup with shared weight update for both generator and discriminator with regularized entropy to “distill” the implicit expert policy by minimizing the reverse KL. Long live GAN lol
RL for reasoning often rely on verifiers — great for math, but tricky for creative writing or open-ended research. Meet RARO: a new paradigm that teaches LLMs to reason via adversarial games instead of verification. No verifiers. No environments. Just demonstrations. 🧵👇
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Woke up to some amazing feedback, thanks everyone!! @provilkov and I are working hard to release a plug-and-play RARO repo soon — what domains do you want to see supported? If you have specific model/dataset requests, let us know in the announcement thread! 👇
RL for reasoning often rely on verifiers — great for math, but tricky for creative writing or open-ended research. Meet RARO: a new paradigm that teaches LLMs to reason via adversarial games instead of verification. No verifiers. No environments. Just demonstrations. 🧵👇
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Update: we are working hard to release plug-and-play code for everyone soon, if you have any specific model/dataset requests, let us know here! Thanks everyone for their support!
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