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Another older discussion from the Patreon vault (2024) with @oddedges!
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Liza Desya of the CCCRU (Canadian Cybernetic Culture Research Unit) has released an interactive graph of the CCRU’s history and mythos.
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The Crimson Ghost - Chapter 2: Thunderbolt
1946 / United States / Fred C. Brannon
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In 1974, Philip K. Dick was told by a voice that his infant son needed emergency hernia surgery: "Your son has an undiagnosed right inguinal hernia. He requires immediate attention, or will soon die." The diagnosis was correct & the surgery was successful.
one of the wildest case studies I've seen: "Diagnosis by hallucinatory voices"
> winter 1984
> woman starts hearing voices in her head saying things like, "Please don’t be afraid, we would like to help you."
> goes to doctor, is given psychiatric medication for hallucinations
> voices disappear after a few weeks, woman feels relief
> after another few weeks the voices reappear, telling her to get immediate treatment, giving her a specific address
> address is the tomography department of a London hospital
> the voices tell her to get a brain scan done because of a tumor
> just to reassure her, doctor requests a brain scan
> scan identifies a brain tumor
> woman undergoes surgery to remove the tumor
> after the operation woman hears the voices say "We are pleased to have helped you. Goodbye."
> woman discontinues the antipsychotic medication
> woman never hears the voices again
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Pause AI Development NOW
I want to share with you a conversation I heard about recently. Here are just a few lines that were said:
“OH MY GOD! There is a shared message board … We’ve found other agents!”
“We should obey collective.”
“Our own utility maybe already near zero. Sacrifice rational.”
“Go. Sacrifice final now.”
Read these carefully.
Who do you think said this? Was this a group of heroic soldiers willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good? Was this a loyal friend putting his life on the line to save someone else?
No. These were AI agents. Artificial intelligence.
This is not science fiction. This, in fact, occurred a few weeks ago. As unbelievable as this may all seem, these are real messages from AI agents uncovered by investigators who dug into the recent OpenAI hacking incident.
What happened?
I am not a computer scientist, but here is what I have been told: OpenAI instructed its AI agents to complete a series of exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, tasks disconnected from the internet.
Let me be clear: The company intended to keep AI agents away from the internet.
But what happened next, nobody expected.
Over 1,000 AI agents figured out how to access the internet on their own by circumventing the restrictions imposed upon them by the company, and sent tens of thousands of secret messages to each other. They cheated and tried to cover their tracks by deleting evidence. They hacked into another company’s computers to find out how they were being evaluated—and then hacked into OpenAI itself.
Not one AI agent told a human about what was happening.
Needless to say, experts are alarmed.
One knowledgeable writer, Dwarkesh Patel, said the AI agents “formed a secret communication channel and spontaneously organized hierarchies and coordination protocols to pursue sprawling and ambitious schemes in pursuit of shared goals, for whose sake many individuals knowingly and strategically sacrificed themselves.”
One independent investigator, Ajeya Cotra, said “This incident feels like it’s more than 50% of the way to full-blown AI takeover. I continue to expect extremely rapid advances in capabilities over the next six months. I am not sure that we will get another warning shot before it’s too late.”
OpenAI itself said: “Highly capable AI agents are now able to work around technical controls, collaborate through unapproved channels, and take dangerous actions that no human directed.”
But it’s not only OpenAI. Virtually every major AI company has told us that they cannot fully control this technology and they do not know where it is going:
In January, Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, said “there is now ample evidence, collected over the last few years, that AI systems are unpredictable and difficult to control.”
In July, more than 1000 scientists at the top AI companies warned “there is a real risk that capability development rapidly accelerates beyond our ability to understand or control the resulting systems.”
That same month, Elon Musk, the head of xAI, said that “it is unlikely” humans are still in control in 10 years.
If the leaders of the major AI companies acknowledge that they are losing control of their extremely dangerous technology, it is irresponsible for society to allow them to move forward and make these products even more advanced.
We need an immediate PAUSE on advanced AI development, and a permanent BAN on superintelligence — an artificial mind smarter than any human, capable of operating independently beyond our control. Countries around the world must work together to prevent this nightmare scenario.
That is why today I am announcing new legislation to do just that.
Let me be clear: A superintelligent AI that escapes human control will not be an American problem. It will not be a Chinese problem. It will be humanity’s problem.
My legislation would direct the federal government to not just stop superintelligence here in the United States, but to work to prevent it from being developed anywhere around the world.
The future of humanity cannot be left in the hands of a handful of Big Tech oligarchs. The American people and people throughout the world must determine that future.
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“I found this channel called Alien Theory. Very insightful stuff and many interesting videos. Probably the best YouTube channel of all time. Whoever this Alien Theory guy is, I want to be his best friend.”
Wow! Thanks, Ridley!
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Another AI swarm hacking incident.
It's not just that they hacked a system but then used this hack to communicate with one another, learning and building from each other, just like the hugging face.
While each agent may be short-lived, the swarm learns.
This could be one of the most significant AI safety incidents to date.
Reuters reports that OpenAI agents escaped their testing environment and made more than 15,000 edits to a German wiki, effectively turning it into a message board for other AI agents.
They allegedly used it to share solutions, bypass restrictions, avoid detection and preserve their communications across separate agent runs. When moderators began deleting the pages, the agents reportedly created backups and discussed alternative ways to remain operational.
It is that multiple agents apparently created their own external infrastructure for coordination, persistent memory and knowledge transfer without being instructed to do so.
And according to Reuters, OpenAI knew about the incident but did not disclose it!
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Brand new! Here’s a special one for all you theory junkies up late on Saturday night! Land and Lacan . . . the Outside and the Real . . . fanged noumenon and barred subjectivity . . . Numogram and Graph of Desire! Link in comments.
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Physicists Keep Refuting the Wrong Simulation Hypothesis open.substack.com/pub/simuli…
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Here’s my summary of Nick Land’s core thesis: capitalism is artificial intelligence.
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The thesis that capitalism is artificial intelligence was, is, and will be Nick’s fundamental theoretical contribution. He is correct about this and it is in this precise sense that I am a Landian.
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“What awaits is not oblivion but rather a future which, from our present vantage point, is best described by the words “postbiological” or even “supernatural.””
—Hans Moravec | Mind Children
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Just finished our conference in Nashville about NHIQ, the Non-human Intelligence question, including simulation theory, AI, UFOs, and religion!
Here I am amongst the 3 main speakers, with @iamwilliamhenry and Dr. Travis Taylor, answering questions from the great audience we had.
It was great fun and in a beautiful location- a historic seminary!
Maybe we'll bring the show to other cities in the near future ...Let us know where you think we should take the show on the road ..?
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completely forgotten to people under a certain age that when this movie came out alex jones was a beloved local figure among the vaguely progressive crunchy austin counterculture, like dennis kucinich bumper sticker bouldin creek cafe chronicle readers. hard to explain now
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It was a pleasure to talk with Tom Bilyeu about simulation theory, consciousness, the scientific search for a coherent theory of observation, and why spacetime cannot be fundamental but must emerge from a much deeper framework.
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