I maintain that one can typically extract any given requisite income more efficiently than a covered call "income" fund, even after taxes, from a simple, diversified mix of traditional low cost index funds.
Long tweet ahead. Strap in.
What do I mean by “more efficiently?” The same income with lower risk or more income at the same risk. Conveniently, we typically see both - more income and lower risk.
There will, of course, be some specific short periods of choppy sideways markets when assets converge where I'm wrong on this but I think on average, for any reasonably long horizon, I won't be (even with the newer, fancier iterations of these products). We care about how the portfolio delivers income across the whole decumulation period, not over a snapshot of a month or 2.
(Let’s also go ahead and get this out of the way - no one is suggesting you just buy the underlying index and come out ahead. That’s not the argument. I’m talking about using a diversified portfolio for current income today. So please don’t come at me with that accusation.)
I've attached a few examples of this concept using older funds with at least a little bit of history.
I've described these older products like PBP and XYLD as comparatively more "blunt" - full overwrite coverage and ATM options - compared to newer iterations like SPYI and GPIX that are more nuanced and active, don't write on the whole equity book, and use OTM options.
Proponents of covered call "Income" funds reflexively say these older ones are the "worst" examples to use and that I'm being unfair and idiotic in doing so. I do so purely to get a longer observable time period for more robust data, i.e. more observations, which is Stats 101. I'm happy to run the numbers with the newer products too, and I've done that, but most of them are only a few years old at most and haven't even seen the environment in which they'd shine. I make sure to explicitly point this out in all my articles on these funds.
The trap the influencers and novices continually fall into is thinking the implementation and management of any given covered call product is what makes or breaks it. It's not. It's the fundamental inefficiency and asymmetry of the covered call trade itself. They think the next iteration of a flashy high-yield covered call product will finally be the holy grail to break the curse and solve the issues. It won't. Ironically, the only way to do so is to remove the covered call trade entirely.
I mentioned this in my first blog post on this topic years ago. First QYLD and XYLD from Global X were the new hot thing among yield chasers. Then they moved on to JEPQ and JEPI from JPMorgan, and QYLD and XYLD were viewed with disdain. Now it's ostensibly GPIQ/GPIX from Goldman and QQQI/SPYI from NEOS, which Goldman is acquiring. Now anyone who even mentions JEPQ or JEPI is labeled a moron.
But NEOS and Goldman can’t change option math. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
These products satisfy a psychological desire to avoid liquidating shares. Totally understandable. But appreciate that they are not magically dismissing sequence risk, improving realized Safe Withdrawal Rate, or allowing for earlier retirement. Your favorite finfluencer is probably claiming it’ll do all 3. The marketing materials of these products even sometimes hint at such fanciful abilities.
(Previously, it was admittedly arguably logistically harder to liquidate shares too. Fair. But nowadays, the broker can auto-sell for me and transfer cash to my bank account monthly without me logging in or lifting a finger. Same outcome.)
Those same people will say this is a new wave of retirement products that opens new doors (“this time is different”) and that I’m just not up to date on the recent research. I think this is pretty silly fundamentally even if only for the fact that markets are still markets. But the irony is we’ve had boatloads of research on this type of product because it’s existed for decades, long before NEOS tacked on some tinsel like 1256 treatment and a long call leg. Those are probably improvements, no doubt, but they don’t move the needle on the elephant in the room I mentioned earlier - the CC trade itself. The “research” they’re citing is marketing literature from the fund provider, who probably pays the influencer anyway.
The CC trade necessarily caps upside and doesn’t adequately mitigate the downside proportionately. This is what we mean by “inefficiency” and “asymmetry.” Lower volatility of these products is just less market exposure. You can do that by …owning less of the market.
In point of fact, the behavior of the fund often doesn’t look dissimilar from just holding the underlying + cash, which I’ve shown here, and which many smarter than me have also shown. Appreciate the hilarious irony that despite what content creators in this space will tell you, a naive 90/10 underlying/cash allocation often beats the flashy, complex, expensive “income” product by virtually any measure.
To add insult to injury, these products always carry pretty hefty fees, comparatively, which almost always easily cancel out any purported tax benefit from ROC, which I’ve also shown: optimizedportfolio.com/roc-c…
I sympathize with the novice investors because I believe they want to believe the empty promises. But these products often don't even pass the sniff test. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If a YouTuber is talking about retiring early on 12% yield with only $300k when the conventional rules of thumb fly in the face of that assertion, your spidey sense should at least be tingling and you owe it to your future financial well-being to at least do more research.
As an aside, sequence risk is a big factor here that every single finfluencer I've seen hawking these products loves to ignore completely: optimizedportfolio.com/seque…
It’s neither obvious nor intuitive that the high distribution rates like 12% are not really returns. Ben appropriately calls it an “illusion.” That’s how you can end up with a fund like QYLD with a distribution rate of 12% and a long term total return of only 9%. The return can be less than the distribution rate. Many don't realize this. In short, these funds often end up having to distribute from their own capital base, because the prospectus says they have to distribute but it doesn't say they must earn more than they distribute.
Don’t get caught up in the mental accounting of viewing yield and price return separately. As always, total return is all that matters at the end of the day. That’s what’s paying your bills.
To keep numbers nice and round, I used $100k starting and $1k/mo. income (12% distribution rate) for all these.
In short, if you want the most income and the most stability thereof, the evidence, even over short recent periods for newer products, shows covered call funds are probably not the way to go (at least not going all in on them). Only time will tell, though, how that claim matches up with one’s personal retirement horizon, but then that’s my argument for diversifying broadly in the first place…
Let me know what I forgot or if I can clarify anything or answer any questions, but you’ll probably find those answers in existing posts where I’ve already broken all this down into even greater detail:
optimizedportfolio.com/qqqi/
optimizedportfolio.com/jepq/
optimizedportfolio.com/gpiq/
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Should advisors suggest unsafe withdrawals? 🤨
Replying to @Retiredat40HQ
2% so you can be the richest person in the cemetery.👻
Seriously, why is every CFP dead set on "safe" withdrawals? Dividend ETF's exist for a reason.
Reminder: $WEEK continues to be the worst way to own T-bills.
Finfluencers can be sponsored by niche fund houses, shill their high-fee ETFs, and sell newsletters while thinking calling someone a fee-only fiduciary advisor is an insult. FinTwit is upside down.
Reminder: "What the people want" at any given point in time is almost always NOT the best investment, objectively.
Some flowers in the 1600's serve as a salient reminder. More recently, NFT's and memecoins come to mind.
Something hilariously (maybe painfully) ironic:
OVL arguably made way more sense with its old, lower, modest yield of 3% - effectively just juicing the S&P a bit to try to squeeze out more return - but the switch to 10% is what attracted huge inflows. optimizedportfolio.com/ovl/
GPIX is an income ETF from Goldman writing call options on 1/3 of its S&P 500 equity book, less than its competitors, meaning more upside captured, and at a fee lower than competitors.
Thus, it's arguably the least offensive of these products.
New blog: optimizedportfolio.com/gpix/
Dudes are buying high-yield income funds, thereby lowering volatility, and then using margin to ratchet volatility back up, all while reinvesting distributions. The illogic hurts my brain.
Engineer Investor makes a great point here.
A pretty hilarious irony is I often see influencers on here unknowingly contradict their own assertions they're trying to make because they told an LLM to write an engaging tweet but they can't spot its missteps in basic logic and math before posting what it wrote.
The LLM - and thus the person hastily publishing its slop - is often confidently incorrect.
An underrated second-order benefit of LLMs is that they’re extremely effective Dunning–Kruger detectors.
Generating prose that convinces a novice is easy. Spotting and fixing the slop before putting your name on it takes expertise.
Shipping obvious AI slop signals a lack of understanding, or effort. It’s a tell.
And people say AI will replace financial advisors...
$SCHD vs the 4% Rule (Part 2):
Say you retired at the end of 1998 with $1 million.
One retiree buys the Dow Jones U.S. Dividend 100, the index SCHD tracks, and spends every dividend without selling a share. A second buys $VOO or $SPY and follows the 4% rule: $40,000 the first year, raised with inflation. A third also buys the S&P 500 but spends 1.75% + 0.5/CAPE of the portfolio each year, a sensible valuation-based rule.
In 1999 the dividends paid the least, about $28k, against $40k for the 4% rule and $30k for the CAPE rule.
By 2025 the dividend retiree was spending $230k a year. The CAPE rule paid $94k and the 4% rule $77k.
Over 27 years, the dividends paid out $2.6M in total. The 4% rule paid $1.5M and the CAPE rule $1.2M.
The dividend portfolio also ended with the largest portfolio, $5.9M, against $3.5M for the CAPE rule and $1.4M for the 4% rule. The 4% portfolio had to keep selling shares through two bear markets and was down to $497k by the end of 2008, half where it started.
If you've ever wondered what I mean when I say mental accounting bias, this is a quintessential example, courtesy of AI slop:
In October 2022, my portfolio was down 25%.
Everything was red. The headlines said the 60/40 was dead. People were panic-selling into cash at 4%.
My distribution hit anyway.
Same month. Same amount. Right on schedule.
The price is the crowd's opinion of your assets.
The cash flow is the machine's output.
One of those kept paying me while the crowd panicked.
Guess which one I stopped watching.
Not sure how this one ended up blowing up but I love to see it. I'll take any opportunity to push back against misinformation.
So in all seriousness for posterity since some seem to have missed the broader point last time,
1. 12% withdrawal rate is likely unsustainable.
2. The S&P can generate more than 1.3% in income. Comparing just the yields of 2 very different investments is silly. Total return is a thing.
3. The 4% Not-a-Rule™ does not say wait until you're old.
4. If by "tax efficiently" you mean 100% ROC, that advantage is likely 0.25% annualized at best, which is less than the fee of any income ETF I've seen: optimizedportfolio.com/roc-c…
This is how you play tennis without the net.
Selling positions that have appreciated - called "realizing" the gain - incurs taxes in a taxable brokerage account.
Doing so in an IRA has no tax impact.
During accumulation, this comes into play with rebalancing. If you can, it may make sense to do your selling only in the IRA to balance out the total portfolio.
Retirement spending is an entire complex field of study by some of the best minds in financial academia, but these Twitter warriors cracked the code. Just focus on cAsH fLoW! It's so easy! Why didn't anyone think of that before?! #sarcasm
Seriously, I dropped the blue check and my followers and engagement have skyrocketed, relatively speaking.
I don't think I suddenly got good at tweeting.
YMMV.
If things keep going up, I suspect we'll see more of this in the coming years as people with reasonable intelligence wake up to the math of these products. Props to this guy for publicly changing his mind. Sadly, many don't know how to even audit their own returns.
🚨Announcement🚨
I closed out my ENTIRE $GPIQ position in my portfolio.
Details -
Amount invested: $6,200
Sold for: $9,552
Capital Appreciation: $3,352
Dividends received: $868
Total: $4220
Thank you @GoldmanSachs 🤝
Tweet dropping tomorrow morning on this exact "you're picking garbage funds to show" nonsense.
Hint: Management and tax efficiency are not the issues; it's the trade itself.
























